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by ystao
Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:16 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re:

(Cho Chikun) defeated Crazy Stone in a 3-stone handicap game. Hi ystao, Thanks. Do you happen to know whether Mr. Cho or any other pro(s)
also played CS at 4 stones, at this tourney, or recently ? If so, do you have the results and game records ?
Densei-sen is an event after UEC, where a pro will ...
by ystao
Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:29 pm
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone


I have never heard of anyone saying 10s is weaker than the 5 dan setting (even on really terrible laptops). Would you mind checking to make sure there are no resource hogs running in the background and that ONLY the time setting is selected? I wouldn't bother with the 120s without making sure that ...
by ystao
Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:03 pm
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone

Bonobo wrote:BTW, just today CS won the first round in the UEC cup.
(Links go to Rémi Coulom’s posts on Google+)

Crazy Stone won the tourney :salute:
And then my go idol(Cho Chikun) defeated Crazy Stone in a 3-stone handicap game. :bow: :bow: :bow:
by ystao
Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:22 pm
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone

I'm not sure about the version of Zen you are using, but one common error I see on Chinese forums is to select "5 dan" as the setting rather than selecting a time. Even the 10 seconds Zen is much much stronger than the "5 dan" Zen. You can only select either the time or the strength, so make sure ...
by ystao
Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:41 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone


Go back to the original MCTS papers to understand "time" issues. Given unlimited time, the pure algorithm ultimately finds the strongest move (relative to alternative strategies) but by the rules of the game, time is limited. The practical programs use various pruning strategies optimized for ...
by ystao
Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:46 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone

Even if the processing power is similar, if the version you're using isn't parallelized over the cores, it might not matter, right?
Modern CPUs all have multiple cores and the version should be using multiple threads to calculate (otherwise it would be ancient programing, DOS?). Parallelization ...
by ystao
Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:24 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone



OK, there are i7's comparable to a single x5680 (but I'm not sure if any of the laptop i7's are, a lot of heat to dissipate). But no i7 comes close to a single E5-2690.

It's very interesting they are using an unevenly distributed cluster. You are right about modern i7s are comparable to x5680 ...
by ystao
Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:37 am
Forum: Game Analysis
Topic: Another one bites the dust
Replies: 17
Views: 9440

Re: Another one bites the dust

Bill Spight wrote: Also, :w48: at K-11 is worth considering, offering a few stones in the corner for a fight in the center.

Yes, this is also good.
by ystao
Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:16 am
Forum: Game Analysis
Topic: Another one bites the dust
Replies: 17
Views: 9440

Re: Another one bites the dust

Is there a reasonable alternative to ?

After it looks like something is wrong already, with all but one of white's stones on the 17th line.

Seems like it doesn't have good potential to make life locally, so maybe it's also a mistake?
is really jarring though. It feels like abandoning the fight ...
by ystao
Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:34 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone

Why not try playing them against each other? That would be an interesting experiment to see if it's consistent that way too.

Have you use game analysis feature of the software? I'm interested in how well that works.
I haven't played them against each other, because I don't have two laptops with ...
by ystao
Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:38 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

Re: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone

There are program version and hardware issues involved.

When you read Zen beat Crazy Stone did you think that in either case the hardware used was as puny in power as in your laptop? In the case of Zen, in these competitions being used is a program version designed to be able to run on a small ...
by ystao
Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:55 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: Go Eye 2.1 is out
Replies: 13
Views: 8707

Re: Go Eye 2.0 is out

GoEye2012 wrote:
Isn't it there in Go Eye already for years? :)

Go to "All games", press "Edit" in upper right, select a few games or a whole group, press [^] (Action) icon to export to any cloud drive you like.


I see :scratch: :tmbup: . I never noticed export feature before, thank you very much!
by ystao
Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:56 pm
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone
Replies: 41
Views: 24872

It's so hard to beat Crazy Stone

I recently bought both Zen and Crazy Stone and played 10 games(5 black/5 white, Japanese rules) each against them on my laptop. Difficulty levels were set to highest and time limits were disabled on both (running on a 2013 MacBook Pro/Win 7 Pro with bootcamp). They are both very strong for me and I ...
by ystao
Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:38 pm
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: Go Eye 2.1 is out
Replies: 13
Views: 8707

Re: Go Eye 2.0 is out

Richer online go game resources are integrated into the new version. Added mobile friendly mode for weiqiTV web site. Now you can view and search 70k+ games from weiqiTV go game database through Go Eye. Many good go web sites are pre-loaded into the in-app browser home page. You can customize the ...
by ystao
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:48 am
Forum: Game Analysis
Topic: Getting back into go after 18 years
Replies: 19
Views: 9486

Re: Getting back into go after 18 years

I asked Jeff Chang 6d about this position. He said tenuki was a no-no, cut was a compromise, but acceptable for cashing in a lot of territory but does make it easier for white too, but he prefers to attack the group as a whole:

$$Bc ...