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by mika
Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:15 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: Thinking time charts for AlphaGo vs Lee Sedol
Replies: 5
Views: 5542

Re: Thinking time charts for AlphaGo vs Lee Sedol

Has there been any information or educated guesses as to how AlphaGo manages it's time? The commentators seemed to think it sometimes takes a lot of time to think about 'obvious' moves. I'm wondering if it has some set minimum limit per move (what has been the shortest time AlphaGo has used for a ...
by mika
Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:13 am
Forum: Professionals
Topic: Lee Sedol vs Alpha go
Replies: 66
Views: 48797

Re: Lee Sedol vs Alpha go

Time setting for these match was announced.

It will be set to 2 hours and 1 minute x 3.


This is what I read everywhere , except in Wired's coverage of the matches , where they say stuff like One more failure and his time for each move would drop to 30 seconds.

Is there some special rule about ...
by mika
Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:53 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: Lee Sedol vs. Google DeepMind: Game 2
Replies: 18
Views: 16490

Re: Lee Sedol vs. Google DeepMind: Match 2

And DeepMind took the second game, also by resignation though this time both were in extra time periods at the end.

I couldn't catch it from the stream, but does the person who's sitting in for AlphaGo at the board also input Lee Sedol's moves for AlphaGo to analyze? Or does someone else handle ...
by mika
Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:46 am
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: Google's AlphaGo defeats Fan Hui 2p, 19x19, no handi, 5-0
Replies: 100
Views: 96080

Re: Google's AlphaGo defeats Fan Hui 2p, 19x19, no handi, 5-

So no, CAN'T do a "dumbed down version" for small machines. This is a very big neural net, lot of nodes, lots of "signals" going between nodes, takes a very powerful machine to get all that done within the allowed real time.


Are you absolutely certain about that? Since here somebody is arguing ...
by mika
Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:23 am
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Professional qualification systems in Asia
Replies: 15
Views: 12698

Re: Professional qualification systems in Asia

I think he makes more money with his real world job (manager in a telecoms company IIRC) than he would if he turned pro. His amateur status doesn't prevent him playing in 'pro' tournaments like the CCTV/Mlily cup or Mingren.

Would he have to quit his day job if he got pro status? I think many ...
by mika
Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:06 am
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Professional qualification systems in Asia
Replies: 15
Views: 12698

Re:

Instead, they can keep their amateur status, take part in amateur tourneys, and make more money that way than if they make pro.
This is interesting, so do the amateur tournaments in China have good prizes or is there much opportunity for amateur players to teach etc.? I would have thought that ...
by mika
Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:09 pm
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Professional qualification systems in Asia
Replies: 15
Views: 12698

Re: Re:

There were about 430 in man's U25 qualification tournament in 2014, about 370 in 2015.
Thanks for the information and links! Alas I can't read Chinese and google translate also failed on the first link, but this was nevertheless very good.

So is this tournament the only way currently to achieve a ...
by mika
Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:19 pm
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Professional qualification systems in Asia
Replies: 15
Views: 12698

Re:

The pro teachers know the levels of the students,
so they would recommend the ones with a chance to take part in the tourney.

Do you mean that each pro gets to select a number of students to participate in the tourney? Is the number of participants at 400 a hard limit or do they allow less or ...
by mika
Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:09 am
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Professional qualification systems in Asia
Replies: 15
Views: 12698

Re:

In recent years, about 400 amateur male candidates take part in the annual pro qualification tourney. About 100 female candidates take part in a separate tourney.


Thank you! Do you know how the participants are selected who can play in the qualification tourney?
Do they Chinese have anything ...
by mika
Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:08 am
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Professional qualification systems in Asia
Replies: 15
Views: 12698

Re: Professional qualification systems in Asia

There is no tournament system test like the Nihon Kiin system.
Thanks. Do you have any more information about the Kenshyu Kishi, like how strong are the professionals you have to play and what kind of time settings are used for the games etc.? What about the insei system in Kansai Ki-in, how many ...
by mika
Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:16 am
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Professional qualification systems in Asia
Replies: 15
Views: 12698

Professional qualification systems in Asia

Since there seems to be very scarce information (and much of it outdated) available in English about the different systems for qualifying as a pro in Asia and as this forum probably occasionally gets visited by people who have either studied there or at least know the systems, I thought we might try ...