Life In 19x19

LZ240 still beat LZ230
0e17a181 VS a9543f21
225 : 176 (56.11%) 401 / 400 PASS

Then from discord jio tested


lz_240 v lz_230 (400/400 games)
board size: 19 komi: 7.5
wins black white avg cpu
lz_240 233 58.25% 106 53.00% 127 63.50% 214.76
lz_230 167 41.75% 73 36.50% 94 47.00% 216.98
179 44.75 ...

Updated with KataGo , OpenCL version (and also throwing in some recent LZ weights for comparison). Just fast games for this one, didn't get around to updating the 20 minute results.

kata_6b is the 6-block network, and you can probably guess the names for 10, 15, 20 blocks. In the 1 minute games I ...

LeelaZero has 16 million self-play games, while AlphaZero has 29 million, so Leelazero may be a bit less strong than AlphaZero, but is probably not very far.
It is not easy to compare LZ nets to AG0 nets since the published games not only use high playouts, but are also hand-selected (which may ...

There were some claims on LZ discord that most of today's bots, including LZ and Minigo already reached AG0 levels (raw nets I guess, hw oc makes difference).

This question has some practical consequences since LZ for example is struggling to gain further strength at the moment, and it is unclear ...

seventeen wrote:

hydrogenpi7 wrote:does your installer automatically detect and config for systems with multigpu?!

I'm afraid it doesn't.
You need to configure it manually if you're using multi-gpu.

where edxactly in the config do I set this to multigpu?

does your installer automatically detect and config for systems with multigpu?!

anyone tried? cannot find any youtube videos on this

https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/ ... -processor

How this compare to Deepmind Tensor stuff?

Thanks for the data, I was only giving it around 50... I guess 200 is a reasonable number for benchmark. Good to see that it has finally surpassed 157.

I recall when the dontbiteme guy was posting weekly updates on reddit he had already gone down to around 35 when he stopped posting.

on a bad computer still its 157 for the wins

So basically I was wrong,

make that half a year zero net effective progress ...

https://github.com/featurecat/lizzie/issues

Is there a parameter to make Lizzie play super aggresively against a very beginning player?

so basically leela zero has made 0 progress in the last 4months since the last 15 block 157 net

on average hardware that still beats the latest 40block even on time parity

With win 10 , dosbox, and win3.1, you can run a lot of these old programs.

HandTalk is very weak...
It's old software, I think it's weaker than gnugo !

The latest LZ networks(172, 173) are slowly catching up with 157, so, there's hope

I've just begun a 20-game (twogtp) match between 157 and ...

If your computer can run a dos program, then you can run Handtalk.
Handtalk and Windows 3.1 aren't officially free, but on the other hand, they're not buyable anymore. You find them easily on the net.


I cannot run native dos in windows 10 so it has to be an emulator.

I actually see on ...