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by TOTAL
Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:37 am
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Are we getting better?
Replies: 19
Views: 17425

Re: Are we getting better?

I agree with the running analogy to a point. If it should turn out that the AI breakthroughs to come might turn the knowledge of go upside-down, as already hinted at with reference to 'some' classic moves and strategies in that video,
1) new generations of go geniuses might dominate the human go ...
by TOTAL
Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:57 pm
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Are we getting better?
Replies: 19
Views: 17425

Re: Are we getting better?

An interesting commentary by one of the co-creators of AlphaGo & Zero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXHFqTvfFSw

I was unaware Zero did not actually play with any top-ranked human at least officially. If people do not really have access to zero, my original question loses validity; it was the ...
by TOTAL
Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Are we getting better?
Replies: 19
Views: 17425

Re: Are we getting better?

Naturally, there is progress in knowledge, strategies and methods of learning. Old strategies prove obsolete in the face of new ones - that is a given in all areas of human endeavor actually. Even if Einstein would shine among our contemporaries, most of them would outshine his contemporaries ...
by TOTAL
Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: Computer Go
Topic: "Indefinite improvement" for AlphaZero-like engines
Replies: 79
Views: 60336

Re: "Indefinite improvement" for AlphaZero-like engines

How about this perspective: the problem will remain computational until the game has been mapped.

1. think of a 4x4 board - or some other reasonable minimum (keeping this vague on purpose) - is there a complete tree? Might be more complex than tic tac toe, which I have read has been mapped because ...
by TOTAL
Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:05 am
Forum: General Go Chat
Topic: Are we getting better?
Replies: 19
Views: 17425

Are we getting better?

Hi All

My first post here.
I have been thinking recently about how effective the modern go learning tools and the bar set by AI such as alpha go are in increasing our skills. I can easily see how tools like KaTrain with their strong engine and the metrics help me progress very quickly, but I ...