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Post #1 Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:56 pm 
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Originally from a Chinese forum. I cropped the part about Go Seigen and saved as a jpg.
The original publication was from the year 1928 from the No. 174th issue 第174期 of the Beiyang Huabao 北洋画报 ("The Pei-Yang Pictorial News").

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Interesting how they use the comma (,) versus the period (。).
Maybe the latter is for bullet points:
  • 。 A
  • 。 B
  • 。 C
And the language. ( About 16~17 years after the fall of the last dynasty. )

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Post #3 Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:11 am 
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The picture caption gives his name as Wu Chuan, but Wikipedia gives the Pinyin Wú Qīngyuán, which is how I expected it to be. I don't read Chinese so I can't read the article posted.

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Post #4 Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:55 pm 
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His child name was Wu Quan


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Post #5 Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:51 am 
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Nice find, thanks!

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Post #6 Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:47 am 
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I bet google translate is worthless for that translation xD

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I don't read Chinese so I can't read the article posted.
Even if one reads Chinese, it depends on the level of understanding; it's non-trivial.
This written form is almost 100 years ago; seems (?) a transition between the classical and the more contemporary.
About 200 years more recent than Dream of the Red Chamber.

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Post #8 Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:18 pm 
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gowan wrote:
The picture caption gives his name as Wu Chuan, but Wikipedia gives the Pinyin Wú Qīngyuán, which is how I expected it to be. I don't read Chinese so I can't read the article posted.

Chuan was his given name (Chinese:名). In old time China once reached adulthood one was given a courtesy name (Chinese:字), and Qingyuan was his courtesy name. It was customary to address each other within the same generation (sometimes by older generation too) by the courtesy name to show respect. It is not unusual that people are known by their courtesy name only (like Go Seigen) and their given name become rather obscure.

In fact in the posted article the first line reads "Wu Quan, courtesy name Qingyuang." (吴泉字清源).


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