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 Post subject: Re: "Fantasy" Go Tournament
Post #21 Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 12:19 pm 
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Swiss of Top 30 pros among Japan&Taiwan Top Korean pro pro and top female Korean pro with very long time settings of 10 hour games!

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Post #22 Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 5:42 am 
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For example maybe this . . . Hopefully
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Post #23 Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:47 am 
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For sure, it's not the best idea for Western pros to be immediately paired up against high-tier or even mid-tier Oriental ones and get immediately knocked out, as is the going system right now.

Then the spectators only get to see them in one game, and they only get one game's experience.

I'd rather see the European and American pros start international tournaments by playing a couple of games against

* under-18s
* female players
* 1ps and 2ps
* insei
* pro- / insei-level amateurs
* seniors

etc.

If the Westerners are better than these groups of people, great, then they'll be able to work their way up to the stronger pros. If they aren't, why pretend they are in the seeding?


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Post #24 Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:53 am 
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That gives me an idea.

Five teams of however many players. Let's say five.

1. Americans
2. Europeans
3. Japanese under-20s
4. Japanese over-50s
5. Japanese women and girls

A simple team round robin of four rounds.

If the Americans or Europeans can ever win, that'd be an argument for higher seeding in the internationals.

Hmm, what would the teams look like?

Team II: Ilya Shikshin?, Artem Kachanovskiy?, Pavol Lisy (EGF 6), Mateusz Surma (EGF 7), Ali Jabarin (EGF 8)
Team III: Fukuoka Kotaro (~260), Miura Taro (~340), Sakai Yuki (~400), Jo Bunen (~530), Mito Shuhei (~540)
Team IV: Yoda Norimoto (~210), O Rissei (~270), Ryu Shikun (~310), O Meien (~320), Cho Chikun (~330)
Team V: Fujisawa Rina (~160), Ueno Asami (~230), Nakamura Sumire (~390), Suzuki Ayumi (~420), Nyu Eiko (~450)

Can't be bother to look up the order of the Americans. But there seem to be only five anyway: Ryan Li, Eric Lui, Andy Liu, Calvin Sun and Gansheng Shi.


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Post #25 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:55 am 
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That gives me an idea.

Five teams of however many players. Let's say five.

1. Americans
2. Europeans
3. Japanese under-20s
4. Japanese over-50s
5. Japanese women and girls

A simple team round robin of four rounds.

If the Americans or Europeans can ever win, that'd be an argument for higher seeding in the internationals.

Hmm, what would the teams look like?

Team II: Ilya Shikshin?, Artem Kachanovskiy?, Pavol Lisy (EGF 6), Mateusz Surma (EGF 7), Ali Jabarin (EGF 8)
Team III: Fukuoka Kotaro (~260), Miura Taro (~340), Sakai Yuki (~400), Jo Bunen (~530), Mito Shuhei (~540)
Team IV: Yoda Norimoto (~210), O Rissei (~270), Ryu Shikun (~310), O Meien (~320), Cho Chikun (~330)
Team V: Fujisawa Rina (~160), Ueno Asami (~230), Nakamura Sumire (~390), Suzuki Ayumi (~420), Nyu Eiko (~450)

Can't be bother to look up the order of the Americans. But there seem to be only five anyway: Ryan Li, Eric Lui, Andy Liu, Calvin Sun and Gansheng Shi.


And Michael Redmond.

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Post #26 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:42 am 
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Double elimination Preliminary one, 6 places, Male Hanguk Kiwon and China Qiyuan pros with only Chinese or Korean immediate descent

Double elimination Preliminary two, 2 places, Everyone else

Then each game in the league is 4 hours absolute per side. The top two then play an 8 hours absolute game with colours reversed from their first game.

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