World Mind Sport Games 2012

[RobertJasiek]

If the IGF

It is not exclusively an IGF event (I am not even sure whether the IGF is involved at all). Rather, specific event organisers, IMSA and EGF play a role. Presumaby also SportsAccord.

[Javaness2]

If the IGF

It is not exclusively an IGF event (I am not even sure whether the IGF is involved at all). Rather, specific event organisers, IMSA and EGF play a role. Presumaby also SportsAccord.

If you read the published reports, you can see who is involved.

[RobertJasiek]

Since apparently you have already read them, what about telling us?

[Javaness2]

Since apparently you have already read them, what about telling us?

" European Go Federation was commissioned to organize the event, with IGF financing the operations." from 'minutes of an IGF meeting'

[RobertJasiek]

Of the EGF organisation process, I saw at least some draft of rules considerations. From that, it seems possible that "McMahon" is closer to Swiss than to usual McMahon and is applied only in case of at least 17 participants / teams / pairs in a tournament. I do not know yet if this good (because more championship style) idea has survived.

[Javaness2]

If the event is advertised as McM, I'd like to see that when I turn up

[Javaness2]

Website appears: http://www.wmsg2012.org/

The McMahons seem to be turning Swiss...

[Saltie]

It looks like this event is really difficult to organize and I hope it will be whatever is on it's road.

I hope furthermore that this time western press and tv will have some interest in it.
First WMSG was a huge success and event for many of us and a huge failure for advertising and report. Nobody apart from us ever heard about it.

[shapenaji]

It looks like this event is really difficult to organize and I hope it will be whatever is on it's road.

I hope furthermore that this time western press and tv will have some interest in it.
First WMSG was a huge success and event for many of us and a huge failure for advertising and report. Nobody apart from us ever heard about it.

Well, a few people heard about it:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colber ... ts-edition

But it was hardly complimentary

[Javaness2]

National Federations have to try their hand at advertising.
"xxx team travels to Lille... blah blah" If you rely only on the IGF or EGF to get press coverage, nothing will happen.

[Saltie]

WMSG in 2008 were covered by Asian press and tv.
Not by other countries.
China did a huge sponsorship too.

Let's see what happens this year.

[HermanHiddema]

Some numbers from http://wmsg2012.org/

79 players in the men's individual
39 players in the women's individual
28 teams of three players in the team event
21 pairs in the pair go event
44 players in the under 21 competition

A total of 30 countries are represented, though sadly neither China nor Korea are sending a team, so I guess the main contenders will be Taiwan and Japan then.

[HermanHiddema]

Well, Taiwan definitely dominated the Men's Individual, taking all four semi-final places.

The Women's semi-final is more varied, with contenders from Taiwan, Japan, Canada and the UK.

[RobertJasiek]

Let me try to reverse engineer part of the used tournament system of the Men's Individual from its final result table:

- Players are required to play all rounds of the first stage. Seeded players are required to play all rounds.
- The first stage is a 5 rounds McMahon bands system. The second stage is a KO for four players with a game for place 3.
- The bands are 7d-5d (initial MMS 3, 41 players), 4d-3d (MMS 2, 17 players), 2d (MMS 1, 11 players), 1d-16k (MMS 0, 9 players). (Total 78 players. Note: 41 players in the top group is a possible number for 5 rounds to distinguish between places 4 and 5 by means of tiebreakers.)
- The final placement criteria are MMS - Wins - SOS - SOSOS. (Notes: As the tied places indicate, there is no apparent further tiebreaker after SOSOS; but how would a tie on place 4 have been broken?! This system gives initial MMS 2 players, i.e. 3d or 4d, the chance to qualify to the KO by winning all 5 games against on expected average tournament-weaker opponents than the qualifying initial MMS 3 players. Very interesting idea. However, unfortunately, initial MMS 0 or 1 players have no principle chance to qualify. The randomiser SOS - SOSOS determined places 4 and 5 indeed.)

It is very unfortunate that the tournament system has to be reverse engineered and has not been published for everybody before the tournament start.

Which pairing strategies were used?

[RobertJasiek]

Reverse engineered part of the tournament system of the Women's Individual: like Men's with these changes:

- Bands 6d-4d (initial MMS 2, 15 players), 3d-1d (MMS 1, 7 players), 1k-13k (MMS 0, 16 players). (Total 38 players.)

Luckily, tiebreaking was not necessary for seeding. Exactly four players ended with MMS 6 (4 wins).

Which pairing strategies were used?