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Post #1 Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:56 pm 
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http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3299468856

I own the clock linked to above.

For some time now, I have been trying to figure out how to program the settings I want. From experimentation, I know that the clock has 9 presets: the first couple are absolute time, 6-8 are fischer time, and number 9 is something like byo-yomi but with only one bonus period. I think options 4-5 are bronstein time (time delay).

Does anyone know if this clock is capable of normal Japanese byo-yomi settings with multiple periods? If so, how do I program that?

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Post #2 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:23 pm 
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I have this clock and sadly, it is capable of Japanese Byo-yomi only with ONE period. I have not yet seen a Go clock that is capable of multiple Byo-yomi periods. I do not understand why - seems both desirable and easy to implement.

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Post #3 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:50 pm 
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Ing clocks support multiple byo-yomi periods. However, I am not familiar with any other digital clocks, so I can't say if any others do.

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I don't see the advantage of japanese byo-yomi over time-delay. And time delay has the advantage that if you go 1 second over your period you lose only one second and not a whole period.

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To be honest, a digital timer needs one and only one setting to be functionally perfect, and that is fischer time.

However, people frequently request that we play byo-yomi because that's what everyone is familiar with on KGS.

Time delay is the standard from my chess playing days and I agree that it is better than byo-yomi, though not for the reasons you list.

Anyway, one last question: what is the standard time setting for weiqi tournaments in China? I believe this clock must be preset for that?


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Post #6 Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:54 am 
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cdybeijing wrote:
To be honest, a digital timer needs one and only one setting to be functionally perfect, and that is fischer time.

However, people frequently request that we play byo-yomi because that's what everyone is familiar with on KGS.

Time delay is the standard from my chess playing days and I agree that it is better than byo-yomi, though not for the reasons you list.

Anyway, one last question: what is the standard time setting for weiqi tournaments in China? I believe this clock must be preset for that?


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Post #7 Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:18 am 
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kokomi wrote:
cdybeijing wrote:
To be honest, a digital timer needs one and only one setting to be functionally perfect, and that is fischer time.

However, people frequently request that we play byo-yomi because that's what everyone is familiar with on KGS.

Time delay is the standard from my chess playing days and I agree that it is better than byo-yomi, though not for the reasons you list.

Anyway, one last question: what is the standard time setting for weiqi tournaments in China? I believe this clock must be preset for that?


byo yomi or sudden death.


Is that byo-yomi with a single period? Example: 60 minutes main time + 1 x 1 min?

Absolute time for go is ludicrous, especially with the availability of modern digital timers.

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Post #8 Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:40 am 
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kokomi wrote:
Have never seen people play single period byo yomi.


Hmm, just found the korean Nongshim Cup is single period byo yomi.

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I have this clock and sadly, it is capable of Japanese Byo-yomi only with ONE period. I have not yet seen a Go clock that is capable of multiple Byo-yomi periods. I do not understand why - seems both desirable and easy to implement.


The Chronos definitely supports multiple byo-yomi periods, as well as just about every other reasonable timing system that I've run into. (That includes a Scrabble mode in which you lose points when you go over your allotted time.)

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The funny thing is, I actually have one of those clocks, but I never cared about any other setting than Fischer time. ;-)

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Post #11 Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:58 am 
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SpongeBob wrote:
I have this clock and sadly, it is capable of Japanese Byo-yomi only with ONE period. I have not yet seen a Go clock that is capable of multiple Byo-yomi periods. I do not understand why - seems both desirable and easy to implement.


I've never seen a go clock that didn't. :)

The Meijinsen (which I have) supports multiple byo-yomi periods (1-99 periods of 1-60 seconds), as well as Canadian time, Fischer time, sudden death, and a Xiang-qi time mode.

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