Life In 19x19 :: Who's playing in Tygem? -- It was AlphaGo!!

The games on Foxwq server:

Game 31: black2012 = Li Qincheng
Game 32: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li
Game 33: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li
Game 34: 我想静静了 = Dang Yifei
Game 35: 若水云寒 = Jiang Weijie
Game 36: 印城之霸 = Gu Zihao
Game 37: pyh = Park Yeonghun
Game 38: 天选 = Tuo Jiaxi

How can we see those games if we don't have an account on foxwq? Did master win all of those games as well?

Anyone know what time settings they are playing on? I'm assuming they are playing with at least 30 second byomi. But I'm guessing since it sounds like 10 games are being played a day, they aren't very long games, and the pros aren't able to play at their best because of it.

Regardless, I've looked at several games so far and the way the program beats them, there appears to be a large gap in skill level between it and the pros.

A copy of the RTM build known as the "gold master" or GM is sent for mass duplication.

Master said he's AlphaGo?

Any update on opponent today?
We've Chen Yaoye, Nie wieping, Shin Jinseo, but on which game no.?

Google translation of
"我是AlphaGo的黃博士"
results in
"I'm Dr. Huang of AlphaGo"

Has anyone seen this posted from the deepmind team?
I've looked at their website and twitter ( Demis Hassabi, DeepMindAI) and cannot find anything
edit: Also, why is the sentence "I'm Dr. Huang of AlphaGo" and not "I'm Dr. Huang of Deepmind"?

Author:	johnsmith [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:23 am ]
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xiayun wrote: The games on Foxwq server: Game 31: black2012 = Li Qincheng Game 32: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li Game 33: 星宿老仙 = Gu Li Game 34: 我想静静了 = Dang Yifei Game 35: 若水云寒 = Jiang Weijie Game 36: 印城之霸 = Gu Zihao Game 37: pyh = Park Yeonghun Game 38: 天选 = Tuo Jiaxi How can we see those games if we don't have an account on foxwq? Did master win all of those games as well?

Author:	pookpooi [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:33 am ]
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johnsmith wrote: How can we see those games if we don't have an account on foxwq? Did master win all of those games as well? I also want to see these game live, but the registration and installation of fox is very.... inconvenience But it look like a home of mass Chinese players, 4000+ people observe Master vs. Iyama Yuta game But right now, all I did is dig information through Google, Facebook, Twitter, like this And yes, it won all game, right now it's playing 11th game with Kim Jiseok

Author:	pookpooi [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:49 am ]
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Also, Yamato (of Zen) spot twitter news headline about AlphaGo (but not related to Master) On 29 December the name of Master in Tygem is still Magist, and change into Master on 30 December (the day this news was tweeted) Coincident? (my twitter timezone is UTC +7)

Author:	JoeS1 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:53 am ]
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Anyone know what time settings they are playing on? I'm assuming they are playing with at least 30 second byomi. But I'm guessing since it sounds like 10 games are being played a day, they aren't very long games, and the pros aren't able to play at their best because of it. Regardless, I've looked at several games so far and the way the program beats them, there appears to be a large gap in skill level between it and the pros.

Author:	pookpooi [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:57 am ]
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JoeS1 wrote: Anyone know what time settings they are playing on? I'm assuming they are playing with at least 30 second byomi. But I'm guessing since it sounds like 10 games are being played a day, they aren't very long games, and the pros aren't able to play at their best because of it. Regardless, I've looked at several games so far and the way the program beats them, there appears to be a large gap in skill level between it and the pros. From what I search, 20 seconds 3 byoyomi periods while in Tygem and 30 seconds in Fox server, both have no main time.

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Author:	Bonobo [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:07 am ]
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Re: “AlphaGo” vs. “Master”: One thing I always had in mind when I read the name “AlphaGo” is this: And now this: Wikipedia wrote: A copy of the RTM build known as the "gold master" or GM is sent for mass duplication. (emphasis added by me) (cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_ ... life_cycle) Of course this can all be mere coincidence But words and names are interesting, aren’t they? This could also explain why Aja Huang was NOT lying when he said that AlphaGo would play under the name of “AlphaGo[Bot]” if she would play

Author:	pookpooi [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:30 am ]
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reddit user post master game on fox https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... f_masterp/

Author:	Bonobo [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:23 pm ]
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And another archive with Master(P) games, already posted elsewhere here by GoRo: http://www.go-baduk-weiqi.de/masterp-sc ... go-profis/ (41 games, they still contain a few ???) The site is in German, all you really need to know is that “gegen” means “against” or “versus” (“vs.”)

Author:	xiayun [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:30 pm ]
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So 41-0 atm. It's playing about 10 games a day, from 10am local time in China to 10pm.

Author:	xiayun [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:07 am ]
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Kang Dongyun (Game 43) and Shi Yue (Game 45) challenged Master for the first time and lost by resign respectively.

Author:	Uberdude [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:45 am ]
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I started a thread to study some of Master's interesting moves: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=13929. Also some comments on Ohashi Hirofumi 6p's blog in Japanese on Master vs Iyama Yuta: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/minamijyuujisei_1 ... ca7943cf85.

Author:	pookpooi [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:12 am ]
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Any update on opponent today? We've Chen Yaoye, Nie wieping, Shin Jinseo, but on which game no.?

Author:	pookpooi [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:58 am ]
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Master said he's AlphaGo?

Author:	Cassandra [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:03 am ]
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pookpooi wrote: Master said he's AlphaGo? Google translation of "我是AlphaGo的黃博士" results in "I'm Dr. Huang of AlphaGo"

Author:	Bonobo [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:41 am ]
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Cassandra wrote: Google translation of "我是AlphaGo的黃博士" results in "I'm Dr. Huang of AlphaGo" Would this necessarily mean that it was AlphaGo that played? What do we know about DeepMind’s naming scheme? Following the naming traditions in software development—could ~~BetaGo~~ ~~GammaGo~~ (Gold?) “Master” be a similar (i.e. further “evolved”) engine, but perhaps totally self-trained instead of having been trained with professional games? I don't really know about tradition in the academic field … how common is it that a graduated person introduces themselves as “Dr. NN” rather than “Firstname Lastname”? (Yes, I know that “Dr.” is used as part of the name) What about the possibility of “three-brain” playing (as Ingo Althöfer calls it): a bot-assisted human player?

Author:	JoeS1 [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:53 am ]
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Well after going through many of the games. I've learned a new proverb. When your opponent builds a wall early, attack it immediately to reduce it's influence and potential. AlphaGo typically ends up making territory while doing this or it's own influence potential.

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Author:	pookpooi [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:08 am ]
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Case closed

Author:	Laerthd [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:14 am ]
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Has anyone seen this posted from the deepmind team? I've looked at their website and twitter ( Demis Hassabi, DeepMindAI) and cannot find anything edit: Also, why is the sentence "I'm Dr. Huang of AlphaGo" and not "I'm Dr. Huang of Deepmind"?

Author:	xiayun [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:30 am ]
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pookpooi wrote: Any update on opponent today? We've Chen Yaoye, Nie wieping, Shin Jinseo, but on which game no.? Game 51 - Zhou Junxun Game 52 - Fan Tingyu Game 53 - Huang Yunsong Game 54 - Nie Weiping Game 55 - Chen Yaoye Game 56 - Cho Hanseung Game 57 - Shin Jinseo Game 58 - Chang Hao Game 59 - Zhou Ruiyang Game 60 - Gu Li

Author:	xiayun [ Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:45 am ]
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Laerthd wrote: Has anyone seen this posted from the deepmind team? I've looked at their website and twitter ( Demis Hassabi, DeepMindAI) and cannot find anything edit: Also, why is the sentence "I'm Dr. Huang of AlphaGo" and not "I'm Dr. Huang of Deepmind"? Ke Jie confirmed on weibo as well: http://weibo.com/u/2865101843 Translation: "Thanks for the shock and awe the latest version of AlphaGo provided us. As someone who knew its identity from the beginning, I'd have loved to see us human winning a blitz game. If not for being in the hospital, I'd have tried one last response that I prepared for a week...slight regret, and hope Gu Li can play to the best of our human ability in this final game of AlphaGo beta test."