There is censorship going on here by L19 admins which is quite frankly disgusting. I seriously expect better from you, knowing some of you in real life. Step up. The original poster of
https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... _admitted/ has contacted me by email claiming that he tried to post
twice to L19 to share this, and that the admins/moderators declined to let his post go live both times. It is absolutely not your place to censor that. It's totally irrelevant whether you own the forum or not; if you wish to have an open community, then you absolutely
must allow users to make their own decisions and openly discuss things like this. By deliberately censoring things like that, and not even allowing users to make up their own mind, you are taking a side. That is not the job of an administrator, moderator or community owner. Shape up. You might think yourselves able to silence some poor anonymous player who barely speaks our language, knowing that he can't stand up and fight against that, but don't try to do that to me. I can and will make one hell of a fuss if forced to. Allow this to play out from a neutral standpoint, as is your duty. Both sides have their defenders and detractors. Only stand in if personal attacks occur. No one has any right to censor information. I likely wouldn't have come in and presented all of this if you had have behaved appropriately towards that person.
In the above-linked thread, one very specific detail stands out: "He brag about move 156 in League A Qualification game being his perfect proof of not cheat because Leela 11 says it is very bad move but Leela Zero says it is super so he plays it."
In that thread, Uberdude performed analysis on that specific move. He concluded (
https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... d/e0c309j/ and
https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... d/e0c45dl/) that Leela 0.11 thinks that the sequence played is losing until explicitly shown the refutation (and doesn't find it after 100k simulations). As the original poster of that thread claimed, Leela Zero quickly finds and verifies its correctness.
PF137 in that thread goes on to explain (
https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... d/e0c509f/, and
https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... d/e0c7qfv/) how this is a very typical P versus NP sort of situation; it's easy to verify what the original poster says as being true, but it would have been extremely difficult for the original poster to come up with it if he hadn't been told it by Carlo. The severeness and unlikeliness of such a situation (game changing, and endgame) is discussed in
https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments ... d/e0cd338/.
PF137 takes things apart thoroughly in that thread: everything from psychological profile matching for Carlo, to the above P versus NP stuff, to social analysis of the original poster's requirement for anonymity. Make yourselves entirely familiar with it.
The best defence that (amusingly, mostly Italians, who'd have thought) people on the thread seem to come up with is "[the original poster] doesn't speak like an Italian learning English". Which is quite frankly stupid. I'm deeply involved in language learning and teaching; let me be very clear that there are (with the ever-presence of the Internet in today's world) infinitely many paths to learn a foreign language, and assuming people will follow the same one is nothing short of absurd.
Regardless, Uberdude's verification of the original poster's Leela 0.11 vs Leela Zero claim on move 156, and PF137's analysis throughout from multiple angles, is completely damning.