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Post #1 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:01 am 
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Hi,

I'm currently trying to figure out how to play on all the different popular Go servers, but Fox is giving me some trouble.

After the program starts nothing happens, but when I login, my Webcam turns on and stays active and that seems -really- fishy. Now I don't want to unplug or disable my webcam every time I play on Fox, but I can't find a way to turn it off in the software and I don't know why/how Fox is using my webcam.

Anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to turn it off?

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Post #2 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:04 am 
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MysteryFTG wrote:
I don't know why/how Fox is using my webcam.

Anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to turn it off?

if you’re using macOS you could try Oversight https://objective-see.com/products/oversight.html

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:28 am 
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Thanks for the link.

I forgot to mention I'm on Windows.

But there might be a program like that as well, I'll keep looking.

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:55 am 
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I for one welcome our new ...

How about a piece of tape?

I had a otherwise very nice friend from china who always asked me if he could install some kind of software on my computer ...

Have you read about the special features on phones from Sina. (Not that I bother much, I love my Huawei! I am only afraid that one day the sky will fall on my head.)

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:32 pm 
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Put up a Taiwanese flag in the background when you play on Fox.


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Post #6 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:10 pm 
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Big brother is watching.

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Post #7 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:34 pm 
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Maybe just order a pack of one of these?

https://www.amazon.com/s/field-keywords=webcam+sticker

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Post #8 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:34 pm 
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I don't see this behavior. I run the client in a VM in which I can disable access to devices such as a camera to the whole VM. Even if I enable the camera so that Skype, etc. work in the virtual machine, I don't see the Fox client trying to do this when I log in. However, it does want access to the speaker to play sounds and keep in mind it's possible to use the microphone to kibbitz (I have not tried this, but have seen others do it), so that's something you may want to check, too, just to be sure your opponent isn't listening to you while you sing and play go in the shower. :D

Alas, the Fox client is a desktop application, so you don't have the fine-grained control you'd have with a store app.

Is this consistently reproducible? If you are on Windows 10, do you by any chance allow Edge to use your camera?

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Post #9 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:12 pm 
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This is always 100% reproducible and I'm on Windows 7.

I start the app, nothing happens. I log in and the webcam (and/or the microphone) is active until I exit the program.

There doesn't seem any option to turn it off and the program certainly doesn't ask or even tell me about it.

Call me paranoid, but I don't like that ;)

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Post #10 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:03 pm 
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They're probably getting ready for live streaming, like all the other popular gaming platforms... ?

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Post #11 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:18 am 
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Strange.
I play mostly on Fox, and as far as I can tell, on both my laptop and desktop my webcam is off.
Where did you download the client from?

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Post #12 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:25 am 
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From here: http://www.foxwq.com/soft/foreign.html

Should I try a different client?

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Post #13 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:00 pm 
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MysteryFTG wrote:
From here: http://www.foxwq.com/soft/foreign.html

Should I try a different client?


That's the same binary I'm using and they haven't changed it in the past couple of days. One thing that happens when you launch the client it that it visits weiqi.qq.com and bbs.weiqi.qq.com and account.qq.com. These are all quite visible using web proxy tools like Fiddler or Charles. It also stores cookies. Fun stuff. You could try visiting those sites in IE and seeing if they do anything to your camera. But I'm going to try to reproduce it on Win7.

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