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Author: | Codexus [ Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Opinion on the Kido Cup twitch live stream |
First a big thank you to the commentators and all the people who made the broadcast possible. There were lots of viewers at times and that's a great way to promote go. Now unfortunately I think the way the commentary was organized was less than ideal. The problem being that the commentary starts too late into the game and, because of that, is constantly lagging behind the actual game by way too much. This creates a divide between the game and the commentary. Here's how my experience watching a game went:
This is not how you keep you audience engaged. It's the commentators' job to make the audience care about the game and you cannot do that if the commentary is completely out of sync with game. This is especially true for the many people who were new to go and watched the stream out of curiosity. It's a wasted opportunity. I know it's not easy, and I really appreciate the efforts but I think there is work to be done to improve the commentary. I've watched lots of Japanese go broadcasts and they have really perfected the formula, so it's possible. |
Author: | xhu98 [ Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opinion on the Kido Cup twitch live stream |
Hey! Stephen Hu here, I don't usually comment on this forum but was pointed to this thread earlier. First of all, thanks for your feedback and suggestions - we are really glad that you have tuned into our commentaries, and we hope that you've enjoyed it. Certainly it's not been easy with only a few core people in the broadcasting team, and we've had to work very hard to ensure that streams are technically possible, and that our staff are adequately paid. That being said, we appreciate your time to tune in. While we try our best to not start the commentary too late, there are quite a few reasons for the delay (or in a broader sense, the way our streams are organized):
These are just some of the factors involved - we are fully aware that we will fall behind in commentary, and due to such complications in a stream, we have to try and balance it out. We are of course happy to answer any questions you have about the commentary; right now we just have no time or money to produce any round recaps, which in my opinion would be great for the coverage, but simply requires too much effort. Actually both producers and myself are still university students with part-time jobs. Again, thanks for the feedback - I'm happy to address any other comments or suggestions |
Author: | Codexus [ Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opinion on the Kido Cup twitch live stream |
Thanks a lot for taking the time to write such an in-depth reply! There is certainly a lot of factors to balance, I wrote my impression as a viewer, I hope it can be useful but I know criticism is easy: the reality of actually producing such content is a whole different thing. Anyway I'm looking forward to the next streamed tournament, thanks for all the hard work to make those possible! |
Author: | xhu98 [ Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opinion on the Kido Cup twitch live stream |
You are very welcome! Yes, there are certainly a LOT of things not shown on stream - I hope this clarifies things a bit. Well, the next streamed tournament on EGF Twitch is about 6 weeks away |
Author: | Bonobo [ Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opinion on the Kido Cup twitch live stream |
Hello Stephen, nice to see you here, in THE English-speaking Go forum Idea: Maybe, some time, if you have the time, create a “Making Of”, and also introduce the staff also, explain what exactly their work is, etc.? I think this might be interesting 1) for your viewers and 2) for anybody intending to stream …? This fan here definitely would want to watch that. |
Author: | dfan [ Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Opinion on the Kido Cup twitch live stream |
I just came here to say that I am currently watching the Yike Cup streams, and they're really outstanding. Watching strong players think about the game together is really illuminating and very enjoyable. It must be a huge effort for Stephen to travel all over putting these together, and I really appreciate it. I have a big backlog of the tournament commentary streams and I look forward to continuing to go through them. For better or worse, I think that the best way to consume these streams may be offline. Then you don't get impatient waiting for them to catch up to the actual game in your KGS window, you can fast-forward past the chit-chat if you like, etc. Of course the point of a stream is the live audience, though, so I understand a lot of Codexus's points. |
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