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Offline Javaness2
 Post subject: Sport Accord - World Mind Games
Post #1 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:59 pm 
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So it's all kicking off tomorrow!
Who will come last? The European Union* or the USA?

*Romania, UK and Czech Republic

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Offline oren
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Post #2 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:34 pm 
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North America team under the banner of the USA? :)
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Offline Javaness2
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Post #3 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:42 pm 
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oren wrote:
North America team under the banner of the USA? :)


Are they actually North America then? lol-ness

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:42 pm 
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I'm disappointed Ilya Shikshin wasn't allowed to play for Europe; I was looking forward to seeing him fight with pros.
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Offline oren
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Post #5 Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:05 pm 
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Japan defeated North America 5-0. Jie Li only had a half point loss to Yamashiro Hiroshi.

http://ranka.intergofed.org/?p=6571
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Post #6 Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:15 pm 
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oren wrote:
Japan defeated North America 5-0. Jie Li only had a half point loss to Yamashiro Hiroshi.

http://ranka.intergofed.org/?p=6571


Even more exciting, Taiwan took two games off Korea. (Which is better than anyone was able to do in 2008, afaict.)
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Offline oren
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Post #7 Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:48 pm 
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Europe and North America remain winless.

http://ranka.intergofed.org/?p=6640
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Offline yoyoma
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Post #8 Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:17 pm 
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Next round: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12 ... 3A30+china

You can watch the games live on WBaduk

From http://ranka.intergofed.org/?p=6640
"Tomorrow the crunch will come when China meets Korea, Chinese Taipei seeks to recoup its losses to China and Korea by beating Japan, and the American and European teams vie for the first non-oriental team victory."
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Post #9 Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:27 pm 
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Usgo.org has some slightly different comments. Apparently Andy's game against Sakai Hideyuki was hard fought.

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Offline oren
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Post #10 Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:53 pm 
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Here is the SGF.
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Offline Biondy
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Post #11 Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:50 pm 
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Round 2 results:

China 5 - 0 Taiwan http://unlimitedgo.blogspot.com/2011/12/round-2-result-china-scored-another.html

Japan 5 - 0 Europe http://unlimitedgo.blogspot.com/2011/12/round-2-result-japans-second-clear.html

Korea 5 - 0 U.S.A http://unlimitedgo.blogspot.com/2011/12/round-2-result-third-clear-swept.html

too bad that Taiwan couldn't cause the same trouble as they did to Korea. Round 3 will be between Taiwan vs Japan, China vs Korea, and Europe vs USA. Seems to be a crcial round for all teams :)

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Offline oren
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Post #12 Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:55 pm 
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Biondy wrote:
Round 3 will be between Taiwan vs Japan, China vs Korea, and Europe vs USA. Seems to be a crcial round for all teams :)


Round 3 is currently being played.
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Post #13 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:00 am 
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USA is now up 3-0 over Europe with 2 games remaining.
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Post #14 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:43 am 
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oren wrote:
USA is now up 3-0 over Europe with 2 games remaining.

we got the remaining 2 games, to settle the score at 3-2 for US. not too bad given the player levels

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Post #15 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:24 am 
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I'm disappointed Ilya Shikshin wasn't allowed to play for Europe; I was looking forward to seeing him fight with pros.


I'm surprised to read this on news as well and wonder who made this decision.

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Post #16 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:49 am 
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Psychee wrote:
I'm surprised to read this on news as well and wonder who made this decision.



From breakfast's (Dinerchtein) KGS+ lecture:

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breakfast [3p]: European team:
breakfast [3p]: Taranu, Pop, Burzo, Simara, Wanessa Wong
breakfast [3p]: Ilya Shikshin got the right to play, but ...
breakfast [3p]: he is ill now, so he cannot take part
breakfast [3p]: one story first:
breakfast [3p]: I was the 1st reserve
breakfast [3p]: Artem92 - second reserve
breakfast [3p]: Jan Simara - 3rd
breakfast [3p]: EGF asked me to replace Ilya
breakfast [3p]: and of course I agreed
breakfast [3p]: but suddenly Chinese decided to reject any former USSR countries
breakfast [3p]: so, I was not allowed to take part
breakfast [3p]: Artem92 too
breakfast [3p]: very strange story
breakfast [3p]: EGF allowed us to play preliminary
breakfast [3p]: but SportAccord refused to accept us


I hope he doesn't mind my posting this.
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Offline Psychee
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Post #17 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:57 am 
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I don't think other sports in the SAWMG exclude Russian players. Was there anything special about Go? :o

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Offline Javaness2
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Post #18 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:45 am 
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Given they'd entered as the European Union...

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Offline HermanHiddema
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Post #19 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:45 am 
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Psychee wrote:
Uberdude wrote:
I'm disappointed Ilya Shikshin wasn't allowed to play for Europe; I was looking forward to seeing him fight with pros.


I'm surprised to read this on news as well and wonder who made this decision.


Ilya Shikshin didn't play because he failed to qualify. The qualification tournament featured three Russian players, Ilja Shikshin, Alexandre Dinerchtein and Svetlana Shikshina, but none of them scored well enough to make it to the team. The same is true for other strong candidates, such as Ukraine's Artem Kachanovskyi. Vanessa Wong actually qualified for the female position by winning the last round against Shikshina.
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Post #20 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:21 pm 
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HermanHiddema wrote:
Ilya Shikshin didn't play because he failed to qualify. The qualification tournament featured three Russian players, Ilja Shikshin, Alexandre Dinerchtein and Svetlana Shikshina, but none of them scored well enough to make it to the team. The same is true for other strong candidates, such as Ukraine's Artem Kachanovskyi. Vanessa Wong actually qualified for the female position by winning the last round against Shikshina.

that is not entirely true. final standings were Burzo, Pop, Taranu, Shikshin, Dinerstein, Kachanovskyi, Šimara, ...

i don't find the organisers' decision very fair for the non-EU European countries, letting them participate in qualification and then deny them chance to play in the main tournament

and i say that despite Czechia got "lucky" and this sudden twist in situation resulted in a Czech player going to China instead of Russians and Ukrainians

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