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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Even an Idiot Connects a Peep
Post #1 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:09 am 
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Even an idiot connects a peep, right? Here's an interesting game between Weon Seong-chin (white) and Pak Yeong-hun (black), where black played a peep in the following position:

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Since I'm "not an idiot", my first thought was to connect like this:

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O W O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but white didn't play that way. He played like this:


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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 3 . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 2 X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought it was pretty interesting, so I thought I'd share.

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Offline Phelan
 Post subject: Re: Even an Idiot Connects a Peep
Post #2 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:18 am 
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Even an idiot connects against a peep, but a pro will find some way to resist. :razz:

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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: Even an Idiot Connects a Peep
Post #3 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:36 am 
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Well, you always want to look for creative ways to connect. I like this one even if it does give up a ladder break.

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Offline Mef
 Post subject: Re: Even an Idiot Connects a Peep
Post #4 Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
but white didn't play that way. He played like this:


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 3 . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 2 X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . X O O O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought it was pretty interesting, so I thought I'd share.


Hm, white doesn't connect against the peep, but black connects against two of them...maybe this is a case of proverbs don't apply to white (=
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Even an Idiot Connects a Peep
Post #5 Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:32 pm 
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it sure is intresting defense..but i think more than 95% of top professionals will play same way if they are faced with same situation.

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Offline Bill Spight
 Post subject: Re: Even an Idiot Connects a Peep
Post #6 Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Magicwand wrote:
it sure is intresting defense..but i think more than 95% of top professionals will play same way if they are faced with same situation.


I agree. It is kind of obvious, even to such a poor tactician as I.

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