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Post #41 Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:13 pm 
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I do think that kifu is wrong :o
don't think anyone will start with 2-7...

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Post #42 Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:31 pm 
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more games...

round 5
陈正勋 Chen, Cheng-Hsun 陈乃申 Chan, Naisan 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 344019.sgf
波格坦 Zhurakovskyj, Bohdan 阿列克谢 Lazarev, Alexej 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 344073.sgf
葛勇飞 Ge, Yongfei 莱泽克 Soldan, Leszek 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 344127.sgf
宋弘锡 Song, Hong-Suk 王琛 Wang, Chen 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 344181.sgf

round 6
弗布 Blomback, Fredrik 安斯 Silt, Ondrej 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 076832.sgf
卡斯帕 Hornbaek, Kasper 佐藤洋平 Sato, Yohei 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 076776.sgf
王琛 Wang, Chen 陈正勋 Chen, Cheng-Hsun 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 076721.sgf
陈乃申 Chan, Naisan 宋弘锡 Song, Hong-Suk 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 076667.sgf


only a few names I didn't know (edit: figured them out)


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Post #43 Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:42 pm 
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I thought it is called WORLD...championship. Even though it is for amateur, the coverage like kifu are just partial. All the players deserve to be recognized through their games for all rounds.

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Post #44 Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:33 am 
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Is the Vietnam representative 5d or 5k? http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/amakisen/wor ... tants.html says 5k, http://rankauploads.intergofed.org/31st ... /res4.html says 5d, http://kamyszyn.go.art.pl/wagc2010 says 5k, http://club.tom.com/showpic.php?url=htt ... 3787_n.jpg says 5d.

I guess the fact that a 1k beat a 5d in round 7 would have attracted more comment, so I guess he's 5k (although he's beaten all the other 1k/1d players he's met, so he's definitely not 5k).

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Post #45 Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:20 am 
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Post #46 Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:05 pm 
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games from final rounds

round 7
葛勇飞 Ge, Yongfei 陈乃申 Chan, Naisan 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 697853.sgf
宋弘锡 Song, Hong-Suk 阿列克谢 Lazarev, Alexej 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 697907.sgf
王琛 Wang, Chen 赵大元 Jo, Tae-Won 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 008864.sgf
佐藤洋平 Sato, Yohei 斯尔特 Silt, Ondrej 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 424101.sgf

round 8
陈正勋 Chen, Cheng-Hsun 布隆巴克 Blomback, Fredrik 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 349429.sgf
斯尔特 Silt, Ondrej 宋弘锡 Song, Hong-Suk 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 349538.sgf
陈乃申 Chan, Naisan 王琛 Wang, Chen 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 349483.sgf
娄宇翔 Lou, Yuxiang 阿基鲁尔 Aguilar, Fernando 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 922223.sgf

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Post #47 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 4:19 pm 
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LokBuddha wrote:
I thought it is called WORLD...championship. Even though it is for amateur, the coverage like kifu are just partial. All the players deserve to be recognized through their games for all rounds.

Consider that having people to record all the games is a lot of work to do. Consider also that this is *as far as I know* the first world championship where they record more than one game per round.

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Post #48 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:10 pm 
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xed_over wrote:
games from final rounds

round 7
葛勇飞 Ge, Yongfei 陈乃申 Chan, Naisan 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 697853.sgf
宋弘锡 Song, Hong-Suk 阿列克谢 Lazarev, Alexej 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 697907.sgf
王琛 Wang, Chen 赵大元 Jo, Tae-Won 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 008864.sgf
佐藤洋平 Sato, Yohei 斯尔特 Silt, Ondrej 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 424101.sgf

round 8
陈正勋 Chen, Cheng-Hsun 布隆巴克 Blomback, Fredrik 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 349429.sgf
斯尔特 Silt, Ondrej 宋弘锡 Song, Hong-Suk 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 349538.sgf
陈乃申 Chan, Naisan 王琛 Wang, Chen 白胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 349483.sgf
娄宇翔 Lou, Yuxiang 阿基鲁尔 Aguilar, Fernando 黑胜 http://china.games.sports.cn/gibo/files ... 922223.sgf


Hi everybody ..
I have a big problem with the game Lou Yuxiang - Fernando Aguilar because... there are several really weird moves that I can't believe a 7Dan like Aguilar would do or even the player Lou Yuxiang could given he is 5d. Is quite weird after the opening... please take a look to that game!

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Post #49 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Phelan wrote:
Consider that having people to record all the games is a lot of work to do. Consider also that this is *as far as I know* the first world championship where they record more than one game per round.


When I was at the World Amateur in 2002 they recorded eight games per round. I'm not sure the staff were paid, so that was probably all they could arrange. They spread their attention around--the top games naturally got recorded, but they made sure everyone in the tournament got at least one or two game records.

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Post #50 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:04 pm 
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Phelan wrote:
LokBuddha wrote:
I thought it is called WORLD...championship. Even though it is for amateur, the coverage like kifu are just partial. All the players deserve to be recognized through their games for all rounds.

Consider that having people to record all the games is a lot of work to do. Consider also that this is *as far as I know* the first world championship where they record more than one game per round.


But when what they recorded was wrong, that's even worse...

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Post #51 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:08 pm 
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Hi everybody ..
I have a big problem with the game Lou Yuxiang - Fernando Aguilar because... there are several really weird moves that I can't believe a 7Dan like Aguilar would do or even the player Lou Yuxiang could given he is 5d. Is quite weird after the opening... please take a look to that game!


check with this one...
http://weiqi.sports.tom.com/2010-05-29/ ... 65492.html

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Post #52 Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:48 pm 
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well they could easily placed an overhead camera and that would take care of everything, including staffs expense, and accuracy, and entertainment too, since people won't have to gather around the table to watch games in progress, that' would be unprofessional.

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Post #53 Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:10 pm 
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There were 30 boards in use simultaneously, so you would need 30 overhead cameras and 30 people to operate them. Last time I went, in 1998, they were only recording about 8 per round. The curious thing you have now is that players went and recorded their own games on the computers provided, so maybe some of the games come froim there.

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Post #54 Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:15 am 
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Is the Vietnam representative 5d or 5k? http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/amakisen/wor ... tants.html says 5k, http://rankauploads.intergofed.org/31st ... /res4.html says 5d, http://kamyszyn.go.art.pl/wagc2010 says 5k, http://club.tom.com/showpic.php?url=htt ... 3787_n.jpg says 5d.

I guess the fact that a 1k beat a 5d in round 7 would have attracted more comment, so I guess he's 5k (although he's beaten all the other 1k/1d players he's met, so he's definitely not 5k).


He played as a 5d in the tournament but European Go Database listed him as 5k. As I played him I can say for sure that he's certainly not 5k at least :) I hope they update this as this gives me less gor lol :D

(Also shouldn't the Japanese and Chinese Taipei representatives get gor as a 7d? They are easily stronger then 2600, makes it though for european participants :))

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Post #55 Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:07 pm 
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All ranks on my site were taken from nihon kiin site. It seems that they made a mistake with Vietnam player. I will send a correction to EGD.

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