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Post #1 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:13 am 
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Hello folks,

When I play, usually my opponent make that kind of invasion and I have no idea what to answer. I tried various variations and at the end, he kills me and take a lot of territory.

Please tell me what is the best answer on this invasion?

Thank you very much!

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Post #2 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:18 am 
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Black has not enough room to make a base here. So has to run. I'd try a capping play here.
Just attack him and profit from making territory or influence while chasing him.

Topazg made a video on capping plays recently:
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Post #3 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:28 am 
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Interesting, I'd approach this differently. Assuming the game is even and the top is open, I'd probably jump out at P10 , aiming to chase Black while building up the top a little. Black doesn't have space for a base but is also hard to attack severely here, I'd just go for the sure and simple profit.

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Post #4 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:33 am 
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infomation you gave is too little.
for me to give good answer i need to see whole board.
what happened in one corner will affect what will happen in another corner.

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Post #5 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:51 am 
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I was going to lay out an example board but I find that if this is a situation from a real game, I'm baffled at how White has so many stones on one side. I'm finding it hard to construct a game like this where White isn't behind. And obviously how the rest of the board looks like and whether you are ahead or behind has a big influence in terms of choosing how to attack.

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Post #6 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:19 am 
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my first instinct is Q12 attack.
and i would think about a capping move you played.
cap wasnt too bad..but what you played after the cap is a problem.

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Post #7 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:53 am 
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I think the most important advice here is this:

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Post #8 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:48 pm 
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my general advice... don't try to kill the invasion, but instead attack it, as if you are trying to kill it, and force it to live small, while you strengthen your own position.

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Post #9 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:41 am 
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Post #10 Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:50 am 
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Harleqin wrote:
I think the most important advice here is this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc
$$ ------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . O 2 . |
$$ . . . . O , . 1 . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . O . X . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , O . . |[/go]

Agree. This is much more fundamental than deciding where to play 44.

Also I advise against taking white when outranked by 9 ranks.

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Post #11 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:38 am 
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Post #12 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:43 pm 
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A bit OT, but Stefany, can you explain to me why you played :w42:?

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Post #13 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:54 am 
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Dusk Eagle wrote:
A bit OT, but Stefany, can you explain to me why you played :w42:?




I had a secret strategy that even Shikshin wouldn't understood it!

P.S - I have no idea about that move. Who knows what other silly moves I have made when I was 16k

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Post #14 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:28 pm 
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Maybe it's a good attitude to ask oneself at every move what the move accomplishes and what your goal is.

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