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Post #21 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:20 pm 
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EdLee wrote:
xed_over wrote:
it was only 50 games when I first heard it
Inflation...
xed_over wrote:
it was only 50 games when I first heard it
Inflation... :)


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Thinking moves through is very important. Try to practice thinking through each move for at least a minute, even if you don't think you need to.

Yes, 9x9 will be a good way to learn some tactics (although I think that setting up close fighting is as important as what happens before the stones come into contact, and you don't really learn the former in 9x9).

Have you tried playing against humans yet? I find it much more interesting.

The whole point of "100 games" is, imo, that it's supposed to take a really long time. Have fun, and don't get discouraged!


I agree human players are much more enjoyable, but most don't seem to want to play 9x9 I find. This week I didn't have time to finish very many 19x19 games so I used what time I did have to play some fast 9x9s during the week if only to keep my mind on the game :) . I probably have ~50 games against humans maybe 60. But yeah I don't expect to get amazing playing the computer... :D

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Post #22 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:11 pm 
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I have two questions that are related to comments in this thread.

1) For 9x9 games, what do you all feel you learn? How do insights/skills picked up through 9x9 play transfer to 19x19? I find my thinking and "tactics" at 9x9 are very different than with 19x19, and I sometimes wonder, "What am I learning here that will be useful in 19x19 go?" (I am not implying that there is nothing useful- there is probably lot's of useful wisdom, I am just wondering what you guys think it is)

2) For computer go, I have two programs I sometimes play, Aya 6.34 and MoGo. I am not sure how strong they are (Aya is perhaps 15 kyu and MoGo is perhaps 7 kyu, but I'm not sure where I got these numbers from). Can anyone recommend other strong or stronger computer go programs?

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Post #23 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:54 pm 
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Signifier wrote:
For 9x9 games, what do you all feel you learn?
Indeed, 9x9 is almost an entirely different game from 19x19. :)
But for the beginner, experience is very important. So the mere act of finishing many games,
even on 9x9, can teach many basic things like atari, liberties, ko, cap race, life-and-death, seki,
basic end-game, counting, scoring, etc.
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I believe MoGo is already 6-dan+ on 9x9? It's very very good.

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