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[go]$$c Black to live
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O O O O O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X X . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . 1 . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------[/go]

Given answer: After Black 1, White can't stop him from making to eyes.


But what if:

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[go]$$c
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O O O O O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X X 5 X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | X 3 1 . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 4 O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------[/go]

Isn't this a seki?


EDIT:
nevermind i got it now:

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[go]$$c
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O O O O O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X X . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . 1 . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 3 O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------[/go]

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Your edit is correct

But anyway, living in seki is also a form of living. So if the problem is "black to live" then the seki would be sufficient.

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Yes, but i was confused with "After Black 1, White can't stop him from making to eyes", because seki is no eyes. But now i know .

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If black plays below, white can actually kill. Do you see how?

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[go]$$c
$$ -----------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O O O O O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X X . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | X 3 1 . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------[/go]

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