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Post #61 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:15 pm 
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I am more optimistic, perhaps, that it'll be someday possible to have more elaborate learning from AI. But I agree that we're not there, yet.

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Post #62 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:17 pm 
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CDavis7M wrote:
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Well my take on the overall question is very clear,it doesnt make us lazy for sure not,because most western players are lazy from the beginning,they dont even try to find the best way to improve they rather try to fin something enjoyable which is totally fine, go here is something fun, so the whole argument of ryan falls apart since the initial and most important motivation of a go player is not improving but enjoying,the enjoying part can be helped by am
Not sure if you're being serious but Ryan seems to be specifically talking about people who are not lazy, who are motivated to improved and are using AI to do so. Being unmotivated to improve is outside of Ryan's argument.

Ryan is not addressing the lazy player who enjoys learning about the ancient Chinese "Gold Scissor" joseki and "Jade Balustrade" opening while tracking what the Japanese tournament venues are serving for lunch in between deep foreign language search engines dives for clues about an illustrious wood collector. :-?

...The venue for game 7 of the Meijin match didn't share their lunch menu during the stream this time. I did get to see video of a coastal train journey though.
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Update: found it on Twitter. Iyama got soba again.
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Soba? You mean the Japanese go term? The pictures show tempura and sushi :D

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Post #63 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:10 pm 
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Soba? You mean the Japanese go term? The pictures show tempura and sushi :D
:lol: thanks for teaching me about Soba (long O) the Go term. Now I won't forget it.

I double checked on the lunch above and couldn't find the same tweet. I found another tweet from the sponsor (Asahi) and there IS warm soba (short O) in that bowl next the to tempura. Apparently it's a common meal combo.

https://twitter.com/asahi_igo/status/14 ... 86914?s=20

The second day of Game 7 for the Meijin is underway.

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