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Post #121 Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:56 am 
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According to Nihon Ki-in, Sakata won 29 consecutive games.
According to my data these wins (between 1963-10-11 and 1964-07-29) were against


But again we have to exclude unofficial games (which boosts the records for some other players). Sakata lost in mid-run against Handa Dogen in a high-profile East-West Japan telephone match billed as Judan versus Meijin.

If we do exclude such a high-level game, surely we'd have to exclude Ke Jie's rally games?

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Post #122 Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:55 am 
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Thanks vier, that's a very impressive set of scalps for Sakata!

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Post #123 Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:31 am 
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Well, I'd stick with number provided by association.
I have to accept the big flaw, that different association have different criteria on how to count consecutive win (and even worse, may be different criteria within that association).
And while these numbers are far from accurate and transparent, they've enough credibility to be cited in general go-related article (as long as the topic itself is not about consecutive win)
For people that side with this idea, here's the number
Nihon Kiin
Sakata Eio 29
Iyama Yuta, Rin Kaiho, O Risei, Ryu Shikun 24

Hanguk Kiwon
Lee Changho 41
Lee Sedol 32
Though I can't find the KBA source of Kim In's 40 consecutive wins, if anyone can, please tell me. His official english profile didn't say anything about this.

And look like Chinese Weiqi Association doesn't say anything on this matter yet, maybe they'll wait until Ke Jie winning streak is over.

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Post #124 Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:14 pm 
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Goratings has updated to include all the latest matches for Ke Jie, and his rating is now up to 3675.

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Post #125 Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:53 pm 
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The last game against Tao Xinran was interesting: Ke played a large avalanche outward turn variation that he famously got tricked in by Qiu Jun in the 2nd Bailing cup final game 3 (and thus lost early, but won the match overall for his first international title and 9p). This one became a huge trade, I don't know if joseki.

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Post #126 Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:17 pm 
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Post #127 Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:17 am 
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Chinese A League this weekend. First up for Ke Jie: captain match against Xie He.

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Post #128 Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:40 pm 
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Ke Jie beat Xie He by resignation in only 121 moves: Ke interestingly allowed a broken shape and then sacrificed 2 stones which didn't actually make Xie's group safe; a ko resulted and Xie made a threat which Ke cleverly turned into gote using some nearby aji.

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Post #129 Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:48 am 
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Ke Jie right now

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Source https://sports.sina.cn/others/qipai/201 ... l?from=wap

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Post #130 Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:44 pm 
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Win #22 vs Korean youngster Shin Minjun 6p in the Chinese league.

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Post #131 Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:57 pm 
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Not surprising another victory, but the way he managed to win it.

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Post #132 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:04 am 
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Who will be his next opponent on July 19?

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Post #133 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:05 am 
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Not surprising another victory, but the way he managed to win it.

Do you mean after he died/sacrificed so much at the bottom, and then black lived in his big moyo too? That did seem like giving up a lot to me, but In Ke Jie We Trust™

P.S. The e2 threat seemed pretty sad as it meant the 3 stones could be captured later (so no chance to get m2 sente, though I did wonder if he could/should have played k2 l2 m2 in sente before L7 sacrifice to avoid the shape pain from when black got m2) and he couldn't even live in the corner afterwards. I suppose that was the only threat big enough? r14 would have been ignored because black connects ko, white pushes through and then black jumps to o11 which makes sure that half of the group is safe and captures white whilst going into the moyo and there's still aji at q17 or p18 or n17?

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Post #134 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:18 am 
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Post #135 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:01 am 
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I was kinda hoping for Shin Minjun to stop Ke Jie, since he seems to have good result against Ke. When I checked the game (around move 100 I believe), I also felt that B is good. But now that I look back, even though B has a lot of cash, W potential on the top is scary.

Also, the Ko on the top is too hard for B to handle. Can B play 133 at O18 instead of S16 to avoid it?

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Post #136 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:03 am 
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Ke is playing 2-stone handicap games with pros on FoxGo server.

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Post #137 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:38 pm 
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W potential on the top is scary.?

At move 101, Sina.com's Weibo account posted the game position and commented that maybe Ke Jie needed to kill the invading group or white might not have enough territory. And the no 1 comment under the post was Ke Jie's own, which read "white by 20 on the board" and then hundreds of fans comments followed :)

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Post #138 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:01 pm 
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wolfking wrote:
At move 101, Sina.com's Weibo account posted the game position and commented that maybe Ke Jie needed to kill the invading group or white might not have enough territory. And the no 1 comment under the post was Ke Jie's own, which read "white by 20 on the board" and then hundreds of fans comments followed :)
Was he commenting live? If so, how? Ke Jie doesn't need to cheat, but giving him Internet access during the game would still be weird.

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Post #139 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:18 pm 
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Was he commenting live? If so, how? Ke Jie doesn't need to cheat, but giving him Internet access during the game would still be weird.

I think he was commenting during lunch break. Players are discouraged from discussing games they are playing but I do not think there is a rule disallowing internet or cellphone usage during lunch break in the A-League.

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Post #140 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:49 pm 
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What a cocky guy... I love it.

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