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Post #101 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:36 am 
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I'm totally lost when it came to Japanese titles, but if Iyama Yuta win this he'll resume his seven crowns reign right?

Yes, he holds the other 6 currently. He has the Oza and Tengen title matches in October - December this year, both against Ichiriki Ryo, but he can't lose those until late November and this Meijin match will be over by early November at the latest.


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Post #102 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:42 am 
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is b dead in the final position?

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Post #103 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:59 am 
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Uberdude wrote:
pookpooi wrote:
I'm totally lost when it came to Japanese titles, but if Iyama Yuta win this he'll resume his seven crowns reign right?

Yes, he holds the other 6 currently. He has the Oza and Tengen title matches in October - December this year, both against Ichiriki Ryo, but he can't lose those until late November and this Meijin match will be over by early November at the latest.


Outside of the generous contributions to 19x19 by yourself and others, what's the best English-language avenue to keep up with Japanese professional go these days?

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Post #104 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:23 am 
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Drew wrote:
Outside of the generous contributions to 19x19 by yourself and others, what's the best English-language avenue to keep up with Japanese professional go these days?

The AGA E-Journal has some high-level news (search for "Power Report"), though you'll have to sift through the American news to get to it.

If you want it as email, there are instructions for subscribing here.

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Post #105 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:04 am 
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If Takao wanted to play in that area of the board, was there a better move? Something like 3-3 itself means Iyama couldn't get those forcing moves but is very slack for points so maybe he'd just gently reduce and win.

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When the game got to this position, I felt like the knight's move at P18 was preventing Iyama from making shape on the side by threatening to cut at Q15 (after some preparation with his N12 group). Is that something that may have come up of Takao played directly on the 3-3?
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Post #106 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:53 pm 
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Pictures of the event...

http://www.asahi.com/special/timeline/4 ... ref=pr_igo

Personally I find the important thing to know is what they're eating.


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Post #107 Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:19 am 
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Iyama, playing as the Japanese NHK cup winner, lost to Lee Sedol (Korean KBS Cup winner) in the 1st round of the Asian TV cup. NHK runner-up Ichiriki Ryo did beat the surprise (beat Ke Jie in semi-final shortly after winning EGC) Chinese CCTV cup winner Zhang Tao though.

P.S. oren, in some of those pictures there are coloured percentages above the board. Are these predicted win rates from a bot like Zen, viewer voting/betting, or something else?

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Post #108 Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:16 am 
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The figures relate to the positional evaluation by a program called 棋神 (programmer Iguchi, company Heroz) but the programmer said that while it's a probability of who's ahead the program is weak in assessing whether stones are dead alive, so I'd assume it's probably wisest to ignore these figures. I think this company is already well established in using shogi and chess software for podcasts, and I'm guessing they are just moving into the go world.


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Post #109 Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:16 am 
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Iyama beat Takao in game 3 of the Meijin title match. Takao won a big early ko, and Iyama's threat didn't kill a group but he got very thick and after 2 more fights he managed to surround a big enough centre to win.

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Post #110 Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:17 pm 
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Asahi published a couple videos with Cho U going over the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7K5BeeVqw

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