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Post #161 Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:45 am 
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Interesting, maybe not-so not-so-famous in Europe then ;-) (I was on holiday for the EGC 2nd week so unaware of what was going on in the Open now that it is separate from European Championship). He's #95 on goratings.org at 3320 so similar to Yulin Tong who won a few years ago. Here's some of his games from the EGC:

vs Michael Chen 7d from USA


vs Dominik Boviz 6d from Hungary


vs Mateusz Surma 1p from Poland


P.S. It's not about Ke Jie, but Zhang Tao went on to win the CCTV cup, beating Li Xunahao 6p in the final with an early 3-3 which he then sacrificed (once he got a cheeky peep) and later made a big moyo and then killed a big group when it threatened to break into the moyo and he allowed it and took the 2nd eye.

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Post #162 Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:19 pm 
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Ke Jie joked on Weibo after the Zhang Tao game that it was probably the most amateurish misread he ever made since turning pro.

Nonetheless, he turned around and beat Zhou Ruiyang to remain undefeated (9-0) against him in the semifinal of Ahan Tongshan Cup. It's another back-and-forth game with major mistakes from both sides. He will play Tuo Jiaxi in the final to defend his title.

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Post #163 Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:34 am 
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xiayun wrote:
Ke Jie joked on Weibo after the Zhang Tao game that it was probably the most amateurish misread he ever made since turning pro.

Thanks for confirming that: it did seem such a shockingly simple misread (I could read it correctly in 30 seconds) that I wondered if I had missed something: perhaps he worried about the safety of his centre group if he answered the L5 attachment passively at k4 or whatever to keep the lower territory. Here's the misread: clamp of 1 doesn't work because black can break through and if next a then b captures, there's no ladder-building or squeeze or anything fast enough for white following push to the left and cut (as there sometimes is in similar shapes, perhaps the source of the misread? e.g. would work if d3 at e3). But even if black couldn't play b then wouldn't c in sente then coming back to d still be a success for black? (Maybe not so bad as for breaking the side you gave 2 stones and ponnuki so white centre stronger, and white lower left is safe anyway?) Next white did use the ponnuki to do mean things in the lower right corner but black didn't die and then the centre white group got cut (as Ke had to ignore the peep at e in the process).

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Post #164 Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:25 am 
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Commentators have been saying that after alphago, Ke Jie's game has gone up another level. Before he might win after getting into trouble and messing around, taking advantage of his reading skill to reverse the game, but after alphago, he seems to win games so smoothly, and his opponents can't work out where they went wrong.

But Ke Jie almost messed up horrifically in his latest game. Wang Yao 6p (on weiqitv) suggests that it is difficult for him, having so many interviews and TV meetings each week, spreading the word about go after his alphago match.

He played a lovely game up until 170 (should be O11), but proceeded to lose so many points (maybe about 10?) in the endgame, say at 188, but notably at 224, especially as 229 leaves a sente 6 point+ follow up now rather than sente 3 point. The weiqitv commentators were speechless, having just said how hopeless it was for Tang, against any professional, B wouldn't consider the possibility of winning, especially as there is no endgame left.

Ke Jie appears to go crazy and fights back with 230, utilising the aji of his dead stones at F5, and holds on to win by 0.5.


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Otherwise

32 was a nice move aiming at the corner cut
70 was interesting, hard to tell if it is overplay or not, 73 seems questionable, but it isn't clear how B should attack. W made the D10 G15 shape look too thin. The invasions on either side were the highlight of this game.


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Post #165 Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:44 am 
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Maybe Ke Jie want to understand why AlphaGo throwaway points in late game can help win the game by experiencing by himself.


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Post #166 Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:42 pm 
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Ke jie just lost the final of the Agon cup (lighting tournament 5 min plus 30 sec 10 times) against Tuo jiaxi 9p. Ke jie was the title holder last year.
https://gotoeveryone.k2ss.info/cn/agon/ Here is the link of the tournament. Kifu (gibo coming soon).


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Post #167 Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:46 pm 
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Yesterday Ke jie lost his second game in a row. The 17th round of the chinese A league. I didn't like the beginning for him. He lost some stones and after i felt white was thick but for him it was hard to build some territories. I wonder if he made a mistake in the first corner.

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Post #168 Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:47 am 
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It's funny that the early 3-3 invasion can end up as a different order to reach the same position as this 3-4 high approach outside attachment joseki: http://josekipedia.com/#path:qdodoeqcpd ... melcldmbnb.

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Post #169 Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:19 pm 
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Yesterday the AGA released the first video from weiqiTV with subtitles and they also mentioned what you (@uberdude) said about the corner shape.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaHmUG62RQc

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Post #170 Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:38 am 
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I'm wondering when did DeepMind record Ke Jie review game with Fan Hui (apparently Fan is DeepMind Go Ambassador now, nice position)

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Post #171 Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:27 am 
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pookpooi wrote:
I'm wondering when did DeepMind record [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUZxe7bXKxo&list=TLGGh_Yr91zRhmUxNTA5MjAxNw]

I don't: I'm more interested in the content. :D

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