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Post #61 Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:10 pm 
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I don't know when was the last time a 50-or-over player in the men's game won a big title - in Japan


High level performance by players at an advanced age is not unheard of. Fujisawa Hideyuki won the first Kisei title (1977) at age 52 and held it for six consecutive terms. His opponent in the first match was Hashimoto Utaro, who was 77! His challengers included Rin Kaiho, Otake Hideo, Ishida Yoshio, Kato Masao, all at peak level. I think Cho Hunhyun played in title matches in Korea well into his middle age.


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Post #62 Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:33 pm 
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I don't know when was the last time a 50-or-over player in the men's game won a big title - in Japan


Not sure why you are picking on Japan - it's the same everywhere.

To be sure, the trend is as you say, but I think (without checking) that you'll find Cho Chikun won several titles at age 50-51 (Judan etc). Cho Hun-hyeon won the Kiseong around age 50. These would be around ten years ago. Before that, Hashimoto won something around age 64 and Fujisawa Hideyuki at almost 70.

I think the oldest international winner may be Rin Kaiho (48, Fujitsu, 1990 or so).

Of course these players were ancient fossils, not old. If you restrict it to "old" as in uberdude's definition you get a slightly more balanced picture.

Remember uderdude and bugcat: "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead." - God.

Let's have a little bit less ageism, here - especially from the teenyboppers :)

What were we talking about again?


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Post #63 Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:38 am 
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On 2018-10-04 Mrs Sugiuchi became the oldest pro, male or female, to win an official game (in the Judan, against Endo Yoshifumi). To slightly misquote uderdude, she beats up young men for a living.

At 91, she is already the oldest active pro, male or female (ahead of the now retired Kubouchi Shuchi, usually given as 90 in the old-fashioned style but really 89).

The late Mr Sugicuhi was the third oldest man, behind Hashimoto Utaro, but he was the oldest in the Nihon Ki-in.

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Post #64 Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:38 am 
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I should have called Gu Li "older" not "old" eh John? ;-)

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Post #65 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:13 am 
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On 2018-11-06, Mrs Sugiuchi won another game in the preliminary of Kisei tournament.

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