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Post #1 Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:45 am 
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新奧 cup open tournament(China) will start 5/24 (combined preliminary).

Sponsor:新奧 group

Combined preliminary(50 group)
Main tournament: round of 64 - round of 8, Semi final - 3 games, Final - 5 games

Prize;
winner - 220,0000 RMB
runner up - 80,0000 RMB
loser of round of 4 - 28,0000 RMB
loser of round of 8 - 16,0000 RMB

Time setting;
prelim - 2hours and 5/1m
main tournament - 2 1/2 hours and 5/1m

seed;
Korea - 3 (Kang Dongyoon, Park Junghwan, Shin Jinseo)
China - 5
Japan - 3
Taiwan - 1

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To complement the 104 notation. :)

Prizes
winner - 2.2M RMB
runner up - 800K RMB
tier 3 - 280K RMB
tier 4 - 160K RMB


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EdLee wrote:
To complement the 104 notation. :)

Prizes
winner - 2.2M RMB
runner up - 800K RMB
tier 3 - 280K RMB
tier 4 - 160K RMB


The tournament arrangement is very similar to that of the Mlily Cup. The only major difference is the prize money: 2.2 million vs 1.8 million for winning the title. That is about 340K USD, in comparison to Ing Cup's 400K, very substantial.

The sponsor 新奧 (ENN) is a major Chinese new energy enterprise.

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Post #4 Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:12 am 
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Is there an official english name? How should we refer to this cup?

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Post #5 Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:19 am 
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uPWarrior wrote:
Is there an official english name? How should we refer to this cup?


新奥杯世界公开赛

which can be translated literally to "Xinao Cup World Open Go Championship". The sponsor might want to use its official English name, then "ENN Cup" would do. These things will become clear when the preliminary tournament starts (24th May).

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Post #6 Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:26 am 
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5/24 - 5/28 Combined preliminary

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Post #7 Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 5:41 pm 
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The name of the tournament might be the ENN Cup

Seed:
Korea - 3+1 (Kang Dongyun, Park Junghwan, Shin Jinseo, wild card: Lee Sedol)
China - 5+1 (Ke Jie, Zhou Ruiyang, Chen Yaoye, Gu Li, Lian Xiao, wild card: Shi Yue)
Japan - 3 (Ida Atsushi, Motoki Katsuya, Yuki Satoshi)
Taiwan - 1 (Wang Yuanjun)

The combined preliminary has 50 groups, including 2 female groups, 2 elder groups and 1 world group.

World group:

{[Allen?? (US, 2d)] (Does anyone know the full name? The Chinese translation is '艾伦')
vs
[Xie Kaikun (NZ, 5d) vs Jiang Zhujiu (US, 9p)]}
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{[Mateusz Surma (PL, 1p) vs Ali Jabarin (IL, 1p)]
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[Eric Lui (US, 1p) vs I-Han Lui (US, 7d)]}

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Post #8 Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:23 pm 
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Combined preliminary matches.......
http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/wr/xa.html

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Post #9 Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:41 am 
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Xinao cup combined preliminary schedule
5/24 Man's group 1~24 1st round, Woman's 1st round
5/25 Man's group 25~45 1st round, Senior 1st round, Woman's 2nd round
5/26 Man's 2nd round,ㆍSenior's 2nd round, Woman's 3rd round
5/27 Man's 3rd round,ㆍSenior's 3rd round, Woman's 4th round
28일 Woman's 5th round

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Post #10 Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:40 am 
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gamesorry wrote:

{[Allen?? (US, 2d)] (Does anyone know the full name? The Chinese translation is '艾伦')
vs
[Xie Kaikun (NZ, 5d) vs Jiang Zhujiu (US, 9p)]}
vs
{[Mateusz Surma (PL, 1p) vs Ali Jabarin (IL, 1p)]
vs
[Eric Lui (US, 1p) vs I-Han Lui (US, 7d)]}


Sorry to bother, but I'm a bit confused by this. I see seven names..is it a single elimination tournament to decide who the world representative is? Or are there multiple representatives?

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Post #11 Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:22 am 
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hyperpape wrote:
gamesorry wrote:

{[Allen?? (US, 2d)] (Does anyone know the full name? The Chinese translation is '艾伦')
vs
[Xie Kaikun (NZ, 5d) vs Jiang Zhujiu (US, 9p)]}
vs
{[Mateusz Surma (PL, 1p) vs Ali Jabarin (IL, 1p)]
vs
[Eric Lui (US, 1p) vs I-Han Lui (US, 7d)]}


Sorry to bother, but I'm a bit confused by this. I see seven names..is it a single elimination tournament to decide who the world representative is? Or are there multiple representatives?


Yes, there are 50 parallel single elimination tournaments to choose 50 players who will join the 14 seeded players in the first round of the main tournament. One of these 50 is the world group, 2 are female, and 2 are senior. I wonder if females are compelled to play in the female group, I think they should be able to enter the regular 45 if they fancy their chances against the men (I recall Yu Zhiying beating Choi Cheolhan and Mok Jinseok recently) as 2 of 64 strikes me as a bit stingy, though probably not actually far off what would probably happen without dedicated special groups.

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Quota allocation is as follows: 12 for Europe, 12 for North America, 8 for other regions. The organizer will make adjustment if insufficient enrolment accurs. For the world group, the prize is 2000RMB(before tax) each round per person.

I don't know if all of those 50 groups have 32 players, if so that's a pretty huge tournament!

See http://mateuszsurma.pl/wp-content/uploa ... nament.doc

Edit: I just checked igokisen and the 45 open groups have 7 players each, including 2 of the top female pros Song Ronghui and Choi Jung, but Yu Zhiying is in the female group. Rui Naiwei is in the senior group.

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Post #12 Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:53 am 
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Looking at http://igokisen.web.fc2.com/wr/xa.html, making only 2 seats with the female group does look very stingy as there are 48 players competing for them, including Li He, Yu Zhiying, Wang Chenxing, O Yujin (actually I didn't recognise many more, O and Li are around 220 on goratings.org), whereas there are only 13 in the senior group. I presume the pairings were random, but the senior group is unfortunate and could have done with some seeding: Nie Weiping, Yoo Changhyuk, Rui Naiwei, and Yu Bin (all still pretty strong pros, around 200 on goratings) are all in the same half of the draw, whilst the other half has no big names, I only recognise Fang Tianfeng because he was the teacher of Liu Yuanbo (MilanMilan), and Yang Shihai because I think he was the trainer of the Hong Kong team at the WMSG.

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Post #13 Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:51 am 
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A few results from WBaduk:
Li Zhe 6d beat Hong Kipyo 7d (I thought Li had given up Go to study philosophy at university, maybe he's finished or AlphaGo made him get back into it?)
Chang Hao 9d lost to Song Sanghoon 2d
Fan Yunruo 4d beat Lee Donghoon 7d (rising Korean player and recent winner of GS Galtex Cup in Korea)
Heo Yeongho 9d beat Liu Xing 7d
No news from the world group, maybe Mateusz will post soon.

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Post #14 Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:37 am 
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Special interest,

World group:

Jiang Zhujiu defeated Xie Kaikun.
Ali Jabarin defeated Mateusz Surma.
Eric Lui defeated Han Lui.

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Rui Naiwei advanced to 2nd round in Senior group.

Song Ronghui advanced to 2nd round in group 26.

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Post #15 Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:37 pm 
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Is Han Lui Eric's dad?

Mateusz posted a few pictures and his game with Ali.
http://mateuszsurma.pl/en/2016/05/25/next-loss/


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Post #16 Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:15 am 
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Is Han Lui Eric's dad?


Yup.

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Post #17 Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:15 am 
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Rising Chinese wonderkid Gu Zihao knocked out Choi Cheolhan. He also beat Kim Jiseok in their game in the Chinese league a few weeks ago, which was a good warm up for their upcoming game in the Chunlan cup. The new Ke Jie perhaps? Some info at viewtopic.php?f=13&t=13127&hilit=gu+zihao

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Post #18 Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:24 am 
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Another interesting fact is that Kim Jaeyoung and Kim Dayoung are sisters and both of them have won two games in the tournament so far :clap:

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Post #19 Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:31 am 
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Are the results online somwhere? I'm just going by the half-dozen or so games per round that Wbaduk broadcast.

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Post #20 Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:20 am 
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Uberdude wrote:
Are the results online somwhere? I'm just going by the half-dozen or so games per round that Wbaduk broadcast.


I can only find the results in Chinese, like this

http://sports.sina.com.cn/go/2016-05-26 ... 5900.shtml

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