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Post #1 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:01 am 
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Hi everyone, I am currently developing a Go game for PC and wanted to include some pro games for people to review with a guess next move feature. Based on Rémis historical world ranking of players I thought I would include games from the following players.

Lee Sedol
Lee Changho
Yoo Changhyuk
Kobayashi Koichi
Cho Chikun
Nie Weiping
Cho Hunhyun
Otake Hideo
Gu Li
Kato Masao
Kong Jie
Shi Yue
Park Junghwan
Ke Jie

This goes back to 1980, anyone I have totally missed or should remove? Also hoping to find suggestions for games to include for each player that shows of their style in a good way. I am looking for 8-10 games/player. I am not a strong player myself so any suggestions would be appreciated.

WIP look of the game and guess next move mode can be viewed here if interested. https://twitter.com/apgamesdev/status/777218799493844992

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Post #2 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:55 am 
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that's cool. that list looks good to me.
Takemiya Masaki's cosmic style is famous and very popular with amateurs.


You might also want to consider Shusaku and Huang Longshi for "ancient" games.


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Post #3 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:58 am 
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Thanks for the suggestions, Takemiya Masaki is a great one. Very specific style that differs from the rest. Maybe also Go Seigen for older games?

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Post #4 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:21 pm 
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It would be good to include games older than 1980 by players with classical "natural" style, such as Takagawa Kaku or Honinbo Shuei (in addition to already-mentioned Honinbo Shusaku). The "natural" game style seems to be especially well suited for a guess-next-move type of training.

You can also get an inspiration from game selections in various existing books such as Appreciating Famous Games.


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Post #5 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:29 pm 
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Thanks, yes that sounds like a good idea. Will see what games I can track down.

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Post #6 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:30 pm 
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The project sounds nice ;).

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Thanks for the suggestions, Takemiya Masaki is a great one. Very specific style that differs from the rest. Maybe also Go Seigen for older games?


If you're going with older players too, yes Go Seigen is one of the most important player, you can't forget it ^^.

In addition to your initial liste, I would suggest Chang Hao and Seo Bongsoo as possible candidates.

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Post #7 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:43 pm 
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Thanks, aim is to have an extensive tutorial, bots from 20kyu-2dan, guess next move and if I can find a nice problem collection with solutions Life and Death problems.

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:54 pm 
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there are many games too choose from, it's hard to say, but gogameguru's commented games have some very good choices. Their Lee Sedol choices are great, and I highly recommend his game with Choi Cheolhan 2013 Myeongin final game 5.

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:31 pm 
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Have you seen this thread? Logan included professional game collections, and was kind enough to mark some of the particularly significant games for each player. It's a wonderful resource.


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Post #10 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:59 pm 
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dhu163 wrote:
there are many games too choose from, it's hard to say, but gogameguru's commented games have some very good choices. Their Lee Sedol choices are great, and I highly recommend his game with Choi Cheolhan 2013 Myeongin final game 5.

Sounds like a good idea to check out, have been checking semi random games but hard to find good games. This will give me some ideas.

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Have you seen this thread? Logan included professional game collections, and was kind enough to mark some of the particularly significant games for each player. It's a wonderful resource.

Hadn't seen that, it's perfect. Will help me a lot! Thanks :)

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