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Author:  trout [ Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:24 pm ]
Post subject:  New tournament Shinyao(新奥杯) cup

1st Shinyao open cup
Sponsored by Shiyao group,
Run by Chinese weiqi association and International go association,

Combined preliminary (50 group) done, Main tournament round of 64 - round of 8,
Semi final: 3 games match
Final: 5 games match

Purse,
Winner 2,200,000 RMB
Runner up 800,000 RMB
Loser of round of 4 280,000 RMB
.......
All participants of main tournament are paid some money.

Date.
11/6 - round of 64
11/8 - round of 32
11/10 - round of 16

Time 2hours 30 minutes and 5 x 1 minute byomi

Seeded players,
Korea: Kamg Dongyoon, Park Junghwan, Shin Jinseo
China: Ke Jie, Zhou Ruiyang, Chen Yaoe, Gu Li, Lian Xiao
Japan: Ida Atzshi, Katsuya Motoki, Yuki Satoshi
Taiwan: Wang Yuanzun
Wild Card: Lee Sedol, Shi Yue


Author:  macelee [ Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New tournament Shinyao(申五倍) cup

This is the same tournament called Xin'ao Cup (ENN Cup). Its preliminary tournament was held in May this year.

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/tournament/186

Author:  daal [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New tournament Shinyao(申五倍) cup

Doesn't 申五倍 transliterate to shen wu bei? Why "Shinyao" or "Xin'ao?"

Author:  Shenoute [ Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:24 am ]
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trout wrote:
Japan: Ida Atzsgi, Katsuya Motoki, Yuki Satoshi
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I had to check his name on Sensei's Library, turns out he was doing the count-down in the NHK cup not so long ago (and was 2-3 dan I guess). I remember seeing him playing in the said tournament a couple of months ago and wondering how he got 7-dan so quick :)

Author:  xiayun [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:10 am ]
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The Chinese name for the tournament is actually 新奥杯.

Author:  trout [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New tournament Shinyao(申五倍) cup

xiayun wrote:
The Chinese name for the tournament is actually 新奥杯.

Thanks for correction. Oro or Tygem site didn't show Chinese character.

Author:  xiayun [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:39 am ]
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Round of 64 matches:

Group 1
Shi Yue vs. Zhang Dongyue
Zhang Wei vs. An Sungjoon

Group 2
Chen Yaoye vs. Mi Yuting (!)
Jiang Zhujiu vs. Xia Chenkun

Group 3
Kang Dongyun vs. Fan Tingyu
Kim Jiseok vs. Park Cheongsang

Group 4
Satoshi Yuki vs. Han Seungjoo
Paek Hongseok vs. Wang Tao

Group 5
Shin Jinseo vs. Tao Xinran
Hu Yaoyu vs. Huang Yunsong

Group 6
Lian Xiao vs. Zhang Xuan
Chen Yunong vs. Byun Sangil

Group 7
Ida Atsushi vs. Wu Guangya
Fujita Akihiko vs. Chen Xian

Group 8
Xie Ke vs. Peng Liyao
Jiang Weijie vs. Wi Taewoong

Group 9
Fan Yi vs. Fan Yunruo
Wang Shiyi vs. Na Hyun

Group 10
Shu Yixiao vs. Dang Yifei
Fang Tianfeng vs. Gu Li

Group 11
Wu Zhenyu vs. Tan Xiao
Xu Jiayang vs. Motoki Katsuya

Group 12
Tang Weixing vs. Heo Yongho
Ahn Kukhyun vs. Ke Jie

Group 13
Li Zhe vs. Huang Jingyuan
Li Kang vs. Wang Yuanjun

Group 14
Li Ming vs. Cho Hanseung
Qin Yuexin vs. Zhou Ruiyang

Group 15
Chen Zijian vs. Kim Kiyoung
Cao Youyin vs. Lee Sedol

Group 16
Yu Bin vs. Hu Yuefeng
Peng Quan vs. Park Junghwan

The winners of each match within the same group will automatically match up in the next round, then everyone who advance will re-draw for the round of 16.

Author:  idontgetit [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New tournament Shinyao(新奥杯) cup

I don't like this draw, to be honest. Dong ge is paired with Shi Yue, meaning one of them will be eliminated right away (probably Dong ge) :(

Mi yuting is paired with Chen yaoye in the first match.

Park, Lee and Shin gets easy draws as usual.

Two Japanese players are in the same group, which, IMO, is not good because I hope Japan can at least get a few rounds in. Then again, it might be a good thing they're in the same group, because if they win, then a Japanese player is guaranteed to go through.

Author:  xiayun [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:33 pm ]
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A few more thoughts:

1. Ke Jie and Tang Weixing could meet in the second round.
2. Kang Dongyun and Kim Jiseok got drawn in the same group, and they have to deal with another world champion in Fan Tingyu.
3. Yu Bin may get to play Park again.
4. Group 4, 7, and 13 don't have any particular strong players.

Author:  idontgetit [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:39 pm ]
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Omg I think Peng Quan laoshi is actually doing really well... can he win?! That would be amazing.

EDIT: omg, Peng laoshi actually won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome!

apparently Peng laoshi also beat Park in 2013 in the round of 64 of the bailing cup. He's 2-0 against park.

So far,

Group 1
Shi Yue vs. Zhang Dongyue
Zhang Wei vs. An Sungjoon

Group 2
Chen Yaoye vs. Mi Yuting (!)
Jiang Zhujiu vs. Xia Chenkun

Group 3
Kang Dongyun vs. Fan Tingyu
Kim Jiseok vs. Park Cheongsang

Group 4
Satoshi Yuki vs. Han Seungjoo
Paek Hongseok vs. Wang Tao

Group 5
Shin Jinseo vs. Tao Xinran
Hu Yaoyu vs. Huang Yunsong

Group 6
Lian Xiao vs. Zhang Xuan
Chen Yunong vs. Byun Sangil

Group 7
Ida Atsushi vs. Wu Guangya
Fujita Akihiko vs. Chen Xian

Group 8
Xie Ke vs. Peng Liyao
Jiang Weijie vs. Wi Taewoong

Group 9
Fan Yi vs. Fan Yunruo
Wang Shiyi vs. Na Hyun

Group 10
Shu Yixiao vs. Dang Yifei
Fang Tianfeng vs. Gu Li

Group 11
Wu Zhenyu vs. Tan Xiao
Xu Jiayang vs. Motoki Katsuya

Group 12
Tang Weixing vs. Heo Yongho
Ahn Kukhyun vs. Ke Jie

Group 13
Li Zhe vs. Huang Jingyuan
Li Kang vs. Wang Yuanjun

Group 14
Li Ming vs. Cho Hanseung
Qin Yuexin vs. Zhou Ruiyang

Group 15
Chen Zijian vs. Kim Kiyoung
Cao Youyin vs. Lee Sedol

Group 16
Yu Bin vs. Hu Yuefeng
Peng Quan vs. Park Junghwan

Author:  lichigo [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:49 pm ]
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Woauh Peng quan just won !!!!
So bad for Park junghwan ...... The World number 2 already out .

Author:  xiayun [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:01 am ]
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Peng Quan remains undefeated against Park Junghwan (2-0).

Author:  macelee [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:56 am ]
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Wow, Gu Li lost to Fang Tianfeng. Mr Fang is roughly the same generation as Nie Weiping. He was the Chinese national champion in 1985 if I remember correctly.

Author:  Uberdude [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:25 am ]
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Also Mr Fang was the teacher of Liu Yuanbo 2p who is known to Western players for teaching/organising various China Go trips and playing on KGS as MilanMilan. He didn't visit the 2007 trip I attended but did in 2010 and Andrew Kay has records of some games/lectures involving him: http://andrewkay.name/go/.

Author:  gamesorry [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:53 am ]
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I took Mr. Fang's interesting class about Go and Culture in college :) Never thought he could advance in an international tournament by beating players like Gu Li :shock:

Author:  Uberdude [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:08 am ]
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I just had a look at the Gu - Fang game, the ending was pretty spectacular with several semeais including one with a temprary seki that was a bunch of virtual liberties as the group on the other side of the seki would need to capture a dead group before being able to break the seki.

Author:  xiayun [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:23 pm ]
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Round 2:

Shi Yue vs. An Sungjoon
Chen Yaoye vs. Xia Chenkun
Kang Dongyun vs. Kim Jiseok
Han Seungjoo vs. Paek Hongseok
Shin Jinseo vs. Huang Yunsong
Lian Xiao vs. Byun Sangil
Ida Atsushi vs. Chen Xian
Peng Liyao vs. Jiang Weijie
Fan Yunruo vs. Wang Shiyi
Shu Yixiao vs. Fang Tianfeng
Tan Xiao vs. Xu Jiayang
Tang Weixing vs. Ke Jie
Li Zhe vs. Li Kang
Cho Hanseung vs. Zhou Ruiyang
Kim Kiyoung vs. Lee Sedol
Hu Yuefeng vs. Peng Quan

Author:  idontgetit [ Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:50 am ]
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great results. Although it's a shame huang yusong lost to shin jinseo, it was expected.

But lee sedol losing was unexpected :D

And Peng Quang Laoshi also won, which is great. And ida atsushi also move on to rd of 16, so basically, almost a perfect round, other than huang vs shin.

Author:  kimidori [ Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:09 am ]
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I would call it a bad round for Korea. I think Kim Jiseok's form is better than Kang Dongyun now, so I would prefer him to advance instead. Now the pressure is on Shin Jiseo.

Author:  Uberdude [ Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:33 am ]
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idontgetit wrote:
great results. Although it's a shame huang yusong lost to shin jinseo

kimidori wrote:
I would call it a bad round for Korea.

I think idontgetit is (at least part) Chinese!

Winners in bold:
Shi Yue vs. An Sungjoon
Chen Yaoye vs. Xia Chenkun
Kang Dongyun vs. Kim Jiseok ........... 2 biggies
Han Seungjoo vs. Paek Hongseok ........... surprise
Shin Jinseo vs. Huang Yunsong
Lian Xiao vs. Byun Sangil
Ida Atsushi vs. Chen Xian ........... only Japanese
Peng Liyao vs. Jiang Weijie ........... bit of a surprise
Fan Yunruo vs. Wang Shiyi
Shu Yixiao vs. Fang Tianfeng ........... Old guy Chinese #150 beats Chinese #139
Tan Xiao vs. Xu Jiayang
Tang Weixing vs. Ke Jie ........... 2 biggies
Li Zhe vs. Li Kang
Cho Hanseung vs. Zhou Ruiyang
Kim Kiyoung vs. Lee Sedol ........... big upset!
Hu Yuefeng vs. Peng Quan

As for Lee Sedol's game, I don't understand why he made that monster ko at top right when he didn't have enough threats, or at least answer white's threat move 54 at b6 in a submissive but threat-minimising way (though why didn't white cut at b6 as threat?). Once that corner died and he got weak groups on both the left and lower sides it seemed game over despite the top side profit, though full credit to Kim Kiyoung for dealing solidly with the bad aji and flailing cutting stones that Lee Sedol so often manages to find some magic with (e.g. resurrection of "dead" traded stones in last game).



Kim Jiseok vs Kang Dongyun was a pretty spectacular sabaki inside a moyo and over in 101 moves. Also started with the close approach to the Kobayashi that's making a comeback.


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