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Following Iyama Yuta (no world ranking discussions)
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Author:  CDavis7M [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:57 am ]
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Game 3 of the Honinbo Title finished up yesterday. I saw the fight in the center start but then it got too late for me. It seemed like Iyama was in a difficult situation. Watching this morning, move after move it all started coming together for Iyama in the center. It was really neat to watch. I don't know how it happened.

So that puts Iyama at 3 wins in the 7 game match. Game 4 of the Honinbo match is scheduled for June 11-12 at Kyushu National Museum ("Kyuhaku"). I hope we get to see more than 4 Honinbo games, but Game 1 of the 5-game Gosei title match where Ichiriki will challenge Iyama is scheduled for June 24. So I'll be seeing a lot more of them regardless.

They both progressed to the Tengen quarter finals. Ichiriki is in the main Oza tournament, which is just getting started. The Judan is in Section A of qualifying but they have final qualifying after that, which I don't think is scheduled yet.

Who is not playing Iyama anymore? Shibano. He's not making it to the top anymore.
Author:  pajaro [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:44 am ]
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It looks like the best Iyama is back.

Shibano is not playing him, but other than Ichiriki, who is? Yo Seiki lost some chances.
In the Meijin, Shibano is leading 4-1. But both him and Ichiriki (4-2) have yet to play Kyo Kagen (3-2). Those two games might decide the challenger.
Author:  CDavis7M [ Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:35 pm ]
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pajaro wrote:
Shibano is not playing him, but othen than Ichiriki, who is?
Well, I brought up Shibano because I was thinking of the upcoming matches and remembering when I compared the new 2022 Yearbook and the 2021 Yearbook.

Looking again, in the 2022 Yearbook, Shibano challenged Iyama for the Honinbo title and Iyama took Shibano's Oza title. And in the 2021 Yearbook Shibano challenged Iyama for Meijin and Honinbo. Shibano was also playing in the Judan title matches.

So, right, Shibano is doing well in the Meijin but so is Ichiriki. And Shibano is in the Oza main tournament. But it just seems like Shibano might not get much coverage in the 2023 Yearbook.
Author:  pajaro [ Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:36 am ]
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I just saw that Shibano will play Iyama in the first round of the Kiriyama Cup.

We'll see if he is in good form.
Author:  CDavis7M [ Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:15 am ]
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pajaro wrote:
I just saw that Shibano will play Iyama in the first round of the Kiriyama Cup.

Interesting, I don't see the match on the tournament page but it is on Iyama's profile. Maybe he gets priority scheduling while they work out the rest of the main tournament. Or maybe the profile is a sneak peek in general.

Would be nice to get a live stream.
Author:  pajaro [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:23 pm ]
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I think there was no stream.

The game was played and the result, Iyama won. B+R

It's a pity to have this game in the first round, but you know...
Author:  CDavis7M [ Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:37 pm ]
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pajaro wrote:
I think there was no stream.

The game was played and the result, Iyama won. B+R

It's a pity to have this game in the first round, but you know...

Thanks for the update. I didn't see any video steam but I just checked the U-gen server and the game is there with Iyama as Honinbo Monyu, which is also how he is listed on the tournament page, but it requires a subscription... it's online though. I'll have to check it out more later but it's exciting.
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I did the trial run of the u-gen subscription a while back and I can't remember if all of the games had commentary or not. Presumably that is what you're paying for. I'm not sure how they decide but often the title matches will be free/open on U-gen and you can review the commentary. I have a software issue where the variation diagrams do not work for me though.
Author:  hailthorn011 [ Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:17 am ]
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https://www.youtube.com/c/nihonkiin_ch/videos

Dunno if y'all are familiar with this channel but this is how I stream games.

That game 4 was something else.
Author:  CDavis7M [ Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:33 pm ]
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hailthorn011 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/c/nihonkiin_ch/videos

Dunno if y'all are familiar with this channel but this is how I stream games.

That game 4 was something else.

Yeah that's the usual channel to watch. I sometimes get recommendations of other streamers covering the match but I just wait for the Kiin commentator

By the way, kvasir gave thoughts on Ichiriki's blunder in Game 4 over here: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 6&start=20
Author:  pajaro [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:05 am ]
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I just found this tweet with some photos on young Iyama, playing Yamashita Keigo 5-dan. Also, with his grandfather.

https://twitter.com/igoumeda/status/1583329835539001346

Ah, and today he won the first game in the Oza, against Yo Seiki. But this is not so interesting... :mrgreen:
Author:  kvasir [ Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:18 pm ]
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I like how Iyama takes his hand of the mouse when playing online and does the usual routine of making good expressions. It does seem healthy and he did win :)

Only if I had the game record.
Author:  Elom0 [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:05 am ]
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Following Iyama Yuta . . . on the official twitter account that's just started. Long overdue but better late than never!
Author:  kvasir [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:35 am ]
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google translate wrote:
Please note that tweets by the person himself will be irregular.

It's a lot like this topic so far, no msg from Iyama himself yet. Still it's appreciated that they didn't just make up a pretend tweet and were honest.
Author:  Elom0 [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:32 am ]
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kvasir wrote:
google translate wrote:
Please note that tweets by the person himself will be irregular.

It's a lot like this topic so far, no msg from Iyama himself yet. Still it's appreciated that they didn't just make up a pretend tweet and were honest.


No msg like Nongshim Noodles
Author:  kvasir [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:21 pm ]
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I forgot to mention that Iyama Yuta is playing Yamashita Keigo in the first game of the S league today.

Elom0 wrote:
No msg like Nongshim Noodles


That's true. On the other hand, it is very high in sodium, thanks to very generous proportions of salt. I know how much you like to eat Go stones. Watch out! Glass stones are high in sodium and the shell stones are high in calcium, they will probably give you stomach cramps! The slate stones might seem healthy but they are way too big, larger than the white stones even, you may find it hard to pass them through. You may need surgery if they don't pass through. I heard that it's safe to eat some clay, even healthy, I never believe it. Probably better stick to noodles.
Author:  pajaro [ Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:15 pm ]
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kvasir wrote:
I forgot to mention that Iyama Yuta is playing Yamashita Keigo in the first game of the S league today.


Yes, and Iyama won in his usual style: get a good position, put a dragon at risk, and win the game if you save it.
Author:  kvasir [ Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:12 pm ]
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pajaro wrote:
kvasir wrote:
I forgot to mention that Iyama Yuta is playing Yamashita Keigo in the first game of the S league today.


Yes, and Iyama won in his usual style: get a good position, put a dragon at risk, and win the game if you save it.


I don't know if it is the final position but the game was left open on Pandanet and had this position. I'm a but tired so I don't want to think too long about the capturing race but it looks to me like black could have around 16 outside liberties, I doubt white can make seki since black can make a big eye and white won't be able to remove those liberties before filling the shared liberties. I don't want to think about it right now :-? Still it's interesting, capturing races with this many liberties are rare on the board.

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Author:  pajaro [ Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:47 pm ]
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That's the final position.

Iyama made a good start in the league. Last year, let's remember, he only beat Murakawa Daisuke and Yo Seiki (who were demoted), and finished in 4th position. He was close to demotion too (would have been a shock). I think that his performance in the league and his defense of the last Honinbo as we know it will show his current shape. After this, his era will be over, or not.
Author:  CDavis7M [ Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:18 am ]
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I'm still an Iyama fan. The comment about Nongshim noodles above reminded me that Iyama is like my favorite noodles: ichiban 一番. At least to his fans.

I'm also glad to see Yamashita doing well overall.
Author:  Elom0 [ Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:45 pm ]
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pajaro wrote:
kvasir wrote:
I forgot to mention that Iyama Yuta is playing Yamashita Keigo in the first game of the S league today.


Yes, and Iyama won in his usual style: get a good position, put a dragon at risk, and win the game if you save it.


My style is literally get a bad position, put your opponents dragon at risk, win if you kill it. The dissapproval . . .
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