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Post #1 Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:36 am 
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This event in China opened with a game between the top 2 players in the world: Ke Jie beat Park Junghwan to retake the top spot on goratings.

Here's some posts moved from the Ke Jie thread, thanks to Elom for tournament details.

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Post #2 Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:09 am 
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I think the IMSA Elite Mind games is just the successor of the in inaugural SportsAccord World Mind Games-- SportsAccord restructured so a partner organisation took over. So the second iteration of the 'Elite Mind Games' is essentially the sixth iteration of the 'World Mind Games'.

If that is not enough, this is not to be confused with what was intended to be the quadrennial olypmic-style event held in 2008 and 2012 (the World Mind Sports Games), but couldn't be held in 2016.

To make things even easier, it does appear IMSA does not seem particularly interested in its website so I guess it makes it difficult to follow and differentiate from the others.

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Post #3 Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:34 pm 
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I found that usgo.org has written about the event and given the names of the players. Has it been so long ago since Nyu Eiko became a professional? And I've just seen the former 10-year-old insei Antti said rose to B class now win the Womens Kisei Challenger decision match. Things move so fast :scratch:.

For those who like details, the format has been changed so that both men and women play in identical parallel team and individual tournaments. Each contingent sends two male and two female players.

December 10, 11, 12, 13: (Team tournament, one game a day at 12:30 Local time, 04:30 UTC)
(Parallel) two-player team tournaments: I think something akin to a swiss format may have been applied for this event.

December 14 (NHK Cup-style Individual + Pair Go rounds 1, 2 and 3 09:00/00:00, 14:00/05:00, 17:00/08:00), 15 (NHK Cup-style Individual + Pair Go rounds 4 and 5 09:300/00:30, 14:00/05:00)
Each contingent selects two players for the pair go tournament, while the remaining two players play in the (parallel) NHK Cup-style individual tournaments. Six players are sorted into group A and B. One player obtains a bye into round 2 after lots are drawn.
The loser of round 1 is eliminated. In round 3, the two remaining players play a match to decide the placement order of each group. In round 4, the winner of group A plays the runner up of group B and the winner of group B plays the runner up of group A. Round 5 consists of the final and 3rd place decision matches. There will also be a match for places 5 and 6 (Numerals used for clarity). The pair Go tournament works in the same way so there are essentially three parallel tournaments with the same format over two days.
The pairs and players are sorted into 3 tiers: Tier 1 consists of China and Korea. Tier 2 Consists of Japan and Chinese Taipei (Taiwan). Tier 3 consists of North America and Europe. I think the draw is configured so the members of the same tier do not play on the first day (rounds 1-3).

I think I personally appreciate the revised system as a great improvement, but maybe less rounds and less players mean that there is considerably more pressure for each game as in the new system, just one win or loss on one game is a lot more important than before as it automatically determines which two match outcomes of a win, loss or draw are possible according to the result of the unfinished board. It also increases the value of a single board point. North America and Europe have some clout in determining which of Japan and Chinese Taipei get 3rd or 4th, and the same is true in the case of Japan and Chinese Taipei affecting the board position between China and Korea.
It also gives viewers the opportunity to choose between the longer time-setting team tournament games and shorter time-limit pair and individual tournament games, so this could be a possible way to help balance 'mickey mouse' time limits.

The team tournament time limits are 2 hours + 5 times 1 minute per move, pair and individual 11 times 30 seconds per move.

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Post #4 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:14 am 
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Ilya plays Park JH!

Edit. He lost the semeai and resigned on move 111.

New thread for this event?

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Post #5 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:20 am 
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Uberdude wrote:
Ilya plays Park JH!

Edit. He lost the semeai and resigned on move 111.

New thread for this event?


More like we need Park Junghwan fanclub thread ;)

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Post #6 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:28 am 
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Hehe, I have thought he's a bit left out with the Ke and Iyama threads, but his play/personality/achievement is perhaps relatively boring. But this game is more I like to see Ilya getting beaten up like he does to weaker players to emphasise how strong top pros are. :)

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Post #7 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:02 am 
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I like Park's play a lot. Achieving Ke's level of play with moves easy to understand. And not some crazy alien reading.

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Post #8 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:21 am 
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I had a feeling Ilya was doing quite well at this point of the game :)

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Post #9 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:55 pm 
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Team Event Round 1 Results


Women's team tournament

Korea v Japan 2:0
Choi Jung 8p - Fujisawa Rina 3p
Oh Yujin 5p - Nyu Eiko 1p

China v Taiwan 2:0
Yu Zhiying 6p - Hēi Jiājiā 7p
Lu Minquan 4p - Yang Zixuan 1p

North America v Europe 0:2
Sarah Yu - Natalia Kovaleva
Wan Chen - Manja Marz

China-Korea-Europe 2 with 2 board points
Japan-Taiwan-North America 0 with 0 board points

Men's team tournament

China v Korea 1:1
Ke Jie 9p - Park Jungwhan 9p
Tang Weixing 9p - Shin Jinseo 8p

Japan v Europe 2:0
Shibano Toramaru 7p - Ilya Shikshin 1p
Mutsuruu Yuta 7p - Mateusz Surma 1p

Taiwan v North America 2:0
Wang Yuanjun 8p - Mingjiu Jiang 7p
Chen Shiyuan 9p - Ziyang Hu 2p

Japan-Taiwan 2 with 2 board points
China-Korea 1 with 1 board point
North America-Europe 0 with 0 board points

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Post #10 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:43 pm 
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Team Event Round 2 Results

Women's team tournament

China v North America 2:0
Yu Zhiying 6p - Yu Sarah
Lu Minquan 4p - Chen Wang Yu

Korea v Europe 2:0
Choi Jung 8p - Natalia Kovaleva
Oh Yujin 5p - Manja Marz

Japan v Taiwan 2:0
Fujisawa Rina 3p - Hēi Jiājiā 7p
Nyu Eiko 1p - Yang Zixuan 1p

China-Korea 4
Japan-Europe 2
Taiwan-North America 0

Men's team tournament

China v North America 2:0
Ke Jie v Jiang Mingjiu 7p
Tang Weixing v Hu Ziyang 2p

Korea v Europe 2:0
Park Jungwhan 9p - Ilya Shikshin 1p
Shin Jinseo 8p - Mateusz Surma 1p

Japan v Taiwan 0:2
Shibano Toramaru 7p - Wang Yuanjun 8p
Mutsuurua Yuta 7p - Chen Shiyuan 9p

Taiwan 4
China-Korea 3
Japan 2
North America-Europe 0

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Post #11 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:11 pm 
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Floor Plan:
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/59943

Day 0
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/59929

Day 1
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/59983
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/59995

Day 2
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/60013

Round 3 pairing:

Women's,
China v Korea
Japan v Europe
Taiwan v North America

Men's,
China v Taiwan
Korea v Japan
North America v Europe

Things are heating up.

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Post #12 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:59 pm 
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Tang Weixin lost to Chen Shiyuan (#207 at Gorating) in a big upset, and Korea is very much in the driver seat to win on the men side.

Yu Zhiying beat Choi Jeong between the two top-ranked women players.

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Post #13 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:05 pm 
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Day 3 conclusion
http://www.usgo.org/news/2017/12/elite- ... -3-report/
Is today the rest day so Day 4 has to be tomorrow? I check Sina and only find Tencent cup happening right now.

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Post #14 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:38 am 
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Team Event Round 3 Results


Women's team tournament


China v Korea 1:1 (2:2)
Yu Zhiying 6p - Choi Jung 8p
Lu Minquan 4p- Oh Yujin 5p

Japan v Europe 2:0 (4:0)
Fujisawa Rina 3p - Kovaleva, Natalia
Nyu Eiko 1p - Marz, Manja

Taiwan v North America 2:0 (4:0)
Hēi Jiājiā (Missingham, Joanne) 7p - Yu Jin (Yu, Sarah)
Yang Zixuan 1p - Chen Wang Yu

China-Korea 5 (10)
Japan 4 (8)
Taiwan-Europe 2 (4)
North America 0 (0)

Men's team tournament

China v Taïwan 1:1 (2:2)
Ke Jie 9p - Wang Yuanjun 8p
Tang Weixing 9p - Chen Shiyuan 9p

Korea v Japan 2:0 (4:0)
Park Jungwhan 9p - Shibano Toramaru 7p
Shin Jinseo 8p - Mutsuura Yuta 7p

North America v Europe 1:1 (2:2)
Mingjiu Jiang 7p - Shikshin, Ilya 1p
Hu Ziyang 2p - Mateusz Surma 1p

Korea-Taiwan 5 (10)
China 4 (8)
Japan 2 (4)
North America-Europe 1 (2)

Now Playing (Round 4 Pairing on Day 4, Final day of the Team event, the day after (Day 5) the speed go tournament commences)

Women's,
China v Japan
Korea v North America
Taiwan v Europe

Men's,
Korea v Taïwan
China v Europe
Japan v North America

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Post #15 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:58 am 
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Well done to Taiwan men's team, but is there now a lot of pressure for both Korea and Taiwan in this Last round? I'm sure there is a lot of pressure on Japan's Women's team facing China today too. Maybe someone may be able to give us a little insight into the game between Tang 9p and Chen 9p?

More pictures

Day 3
http://api.imsa.cn/news/article/60071/page
https://www.yikeweiqi.com/news/topline/39070/
http://api.imsa.cn/news/article/60049/page
http://api.imsa.cn/news/article/60049/page

Day 4
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/60053
https://www.yikeweiqi.com/news/topline/39108/

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Post #16 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:07 am 
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I like Park's play a lot. Achieving Ke's level of play with moves easy to understand. And not some crazy alien reading.


Interesting to review the games played at 30 sec per move.
The moves by Ke Jie are quite natural. No crazy alien reading here with the short time controls. (For example the game against Wang Yuanjun)

And perhaps no crazy reading due to the skill gap as well ;-)

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Team Event Round 4 Results

Women's team tournament

China v Japan 1:1 (2:2)
Yu Zhiying 6p - Fujisawa Rina 3p
Lu Minquan 4p - Nyu Eiko 1p

Korea v North America 2:0 (4:0)
Choi Jung 8p - Yu Jin (Yu, Sarah)
Oh Yujin 5p - Chen Wang Yu

Taiwan v Europe 2:0 (4:0)
Hēi Jiājiā (Missingham, Joanne) 7p - Kovaleva, Natalia
Yang Zixuan - Marz, Manja

Men's team tournament

Korea v Taiwan 2:0 (4:0)
Park Jungwhan 9p - Wang Yuanjun 8p
Shin Jinseo 8p - Chen Shiyuan 9p

China v Europe 2:0 (4:0)
Ke Jie 9p - Shikshin, Ilya 1p
Tang Weixing 9p - Surma, Mateusz 1p

Japan v North America 2:0 (4:0)
Shibano Toramaru 7p - Yu Jin (Yu, Sarah)
Mutsuura Yuta 7p - Chen Wang Yu

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Gomoto wrote:
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I like Park's play a lot. Achieving Ke's level of play with moves easy to understand. And not some crazy alien reading.


Interesting to review the games played at 30 sec per move.
The moves by Ke Jie are quite natural. No crazy alien reading here with the short time controls. (For example the game against Wang Yuanjun)

And perhaps no crazy reading due to the skill gap as well ;-)


Okay! But I do believe that the games you are referring to are actually still the 2 hour + 5 x 1 minute per move team tournament games :).

In fact, the draw for all of the speed Go games should be here.

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Results

Women's

1st-Korea
7 Match Points, 14 Game Points, 13 SOS

2nd-China
6 Match Points, 12 Game Point, 16 SOS

3rd-Japan
5 Match Points, 10 Game Points, 19 SOS

4th- Taiwan
4 Match Points, 8 Game Points, 13 SOS

5th-Europe
2 Match Points, 4 Game Points, 16 SOS

6th-North America
0 Match Points, 0 Game Points 19 SOS

Men's

1st-Korea
7 Match Points, 14 Game Points, 16 SOS

2nd-China
6 Match Points, 12 Game Points, 14 SOS

3rd-Taiwan
5 Match Points, 10 Game Points, 18 SOS

4th-Japan
4 Match Points, 8 Game Points, 14 SOS

5th Europe
1 Match Point, 2 Game Points, 18 SOS

6th-North America
1 Match Point, 2 Game Points, 16 SOS

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Kei Jie v Shikshin, Ilya
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/60081

Awards (including a triumphant Choi Jung)
http://cwa.imsa.cn/archives/60123

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