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Post #1 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:42 am 
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I recall reading years ago that researchers had aimed high-speed cameras at grandmaster's eyes when they played chess, and the things that they looked at were different than patzers. Has anyone done the same with go?

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Post #2 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:01 am 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
I recall reading years ago that researchers had aimed high-speed cameras at grandmaster's eyes when they played chess, and the things that they looked at were different than patzers. Has anyone done the same with go?


I heard that some research has been with tsumego, but it may have been with amateurs. Anyway, the good L&D solvers looked at potential eye points, while the bad solvers looked at where to put stones. :)

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Post #3 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:26 am 
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would be fun to try this yourself.

I did a quick search for some eye tracking software that can use a webcam as input.
I did find one that woks good for me, It woks fine in callibration mode.
Unfortunately I have no idea how to make the program work so I constantly
see a dot on the screen where I look. (to be able to solve tsumego, or play a game and see where i look)

the one I found is called gazetracker 1.6

edit. found the problem. I'll give it a try tomorrow. and post the results if possible

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Post #4 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:19 am 
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as promised I made a video of me trying this out.
Here is a link on youtube

It is not really accurate enough to get a good idea of the exact intersections, but gives some idea.
apparently I mostly look at the internal shapes and cuts. when you see me looking to the left it is
to check if it's B or W to play, or read some other info about the problem. It will work much better
with full screen on a 9-9 board. but this was just a test. I is also fun to see where you look when
watching a movie. This does not need great accuracy, but is a lot of fun.

conclusion:
Not very usable for accurate tracking of individual coordinates on a big board, but great fun for a few $$.

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Post #5 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:35 am 
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What software are you using to record the screen zoomed in like that? It looked smooth when panning over the screen.

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Post #6 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:27 am 
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Camtasia Studio.
The zoom feature is automated. normally I turn it off, but I forgot. This was a quick test anyway
Because it looked nice, I did not bother to take (edit) it out again.

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