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 Post subject: kim jiseok plays two moves in a row (Chinese City A league)
Post #1 Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:30 am 
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Han Yizhou took the ko without playing a ko threat and was penalised by forfeiting his turn at move 35, (losing a ko worth over 40 points ...)

http://sports.sina.com.cn/go/2017-10-30 ... 5918.shtml

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Post #2 Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:19 am 
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Interesting. Is having to pass your turn, but not forfeit the game, part of the Chinese rules (or the rules of this tournament) or did the referees have to improvise?
If I remember correctly Cho Chikun in Japan had to forfeit the game when he did that a few years ago.

Edit. Turns out I misremembered. It was in the 1980 Meijin and even if he had taken the ko without making a threat first, he had first asked the recorder if it was his turn to take the ko and had been answered that it indeed was. Normally taking without making a threat first would have meant forfeiting the game but since asking the recorder this kind of information was an established custom, things became more complex and the game was declared a draw.

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Post #3 Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:37 am 
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I did something similar at the British open a couple of years ago: I played an illegal suicide move (I thought it was just self atari) as a ko threat during a huge ko. According to the BGA rules my move was removed and replaced with a pass and I said I would resign, but my opponent didn't want to win like that so graciously also passed and we continued the game, and in the end I managed to win. Very sporting of him I thought.


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Post #4 Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:24 am 
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but if you pass twice then you have to begin the ... nvm

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Post #5 Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:04 am 
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Javaness2 wrote:
but if you pass twice then you have to begin the ... nvm

Not in BGA rules, after 2 passes you agree on the life and death status of the groups, we didn't, so play resumed. And also I think I was white and white should pass last before counting so it would need 3 passes.

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