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Post #61 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:21 pm 
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I don't know who is the bigger crybaby - this 8 years old from one year ago, or the grown ups who make such a big deal out of this video :-)

Cho Chikun is known for crying sometimes, when he lost important title games. One such case is described here: https://senseis.xmp.net/?ChoChikun but there are others too...

Another one I read in Go World recently: after the 7th game of the Meijin title from 1985, Kobayashi Koichi commented "Cho started crying after I played this invasion" (the invasion ruined Cho's last hope to win the game, and therefore the match).


I love Cho Chikun. He's so wonderfully human. And that in the age of robots! :D

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Post #62 Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:51 am 
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Sumire is playing Joanne Missingham this week (20 Feb) on the Go & Shogi Channel (but the premium service). We also now have a game of hers against Cho Hun-hyeon. She lost, taking Black, but lasted 192 moves!

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Post #63 Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:43 am 
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Here's the game versus Joanne Missingham, thanks to ShAlexander on reddit.


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Post #64 Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:17 am 
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I looked just briefly at the WBaduk comments on the game with Joanne, it looks like Sumire missed some chances in the 2nd half of the game (they show at least 3 places where she could have played much more severe moves).



I also enjoyed these photos and videos from the event, looks like Takemiya is a big fan of her already :-) https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 8996189871


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Post #65 Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:26 pm 
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Han Jongjin Baduk school celebrated his students' making 1P.

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Cho Hanseung 9p giving present to Smire.

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Smire's mother making speech in Korean using cell phone. "Smire became 1p but she is not strong. Please take care of her in future."

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She said "I will work harder in future.". She is speaking very fluent Korean.

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She will become 1p officially 4/1.


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Post #66 Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:21 am 
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Here is a reasonably meaty article from John Power on her background: http://www.usgo.org/news/2019/03/the-po ... ra-sumire/


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Post #67 Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:06 am 
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John Fairbairn wrote:
This game was played 9 months before Sumire achieved a jigo (even, taking komi) against a top pro, Cho U.

9 months represents about 15% of her entire playing career, and I'd wager that she was working very much harder then ever in those last 9 months. So, in her case, a massive improvement after the Tygem game is not really surprising. I think, also, that for people of limited experience (of any age) we must expect a lot of deep blips as they encounter new experiences, and the recent Ch'oe Cheong game may come under that category.


Sorry for the late reply, but I think you are mistaken. A Korean friend told me that this particular game was in fact played on February 8th of 2019, not nine months prior as you had stated. The game was arranged when Sumire did a celebratory tour of South Korea as a 'newly-minted' professional. Her opponent was an amateur 5-Dan who was picked to play Sumire because he was of the same age, born in the same month in fact.

I know this is just one game, but coupled with Sumire's other games against professional players in which she was absolutely trounced, I can't help but have reservations about Sumire's promotion to the professional ranks. Her promotion to me looks more and more like a desperate publicity stunt. What were the adults thinking? Has anyone considered Sumire's welfare?

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Post #68 Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:31 am 
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TheCannyOnion wrote:
(...) A Korean friend told me that this particular game was in fact played on February 8th of 2019, not nine months prior as you had stated. The game was arranged when Sumire did a celebratory tour of South Korea as a 'newly-minted' professional. Her opponent was an amateur 5-Dan who was picked to play Sumire because he was of the same age, born in the same month in fact. (...)
For what it's worth, here is a link to a tvbaduk segment showing the same game, video has been online since August 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38lLu2B96EQ


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