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 Post subject: Fun brawl: Lee Changho vs Cho Hyeyeon
Post #1 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:32 am 
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A fun game with fighting sprawling across the board from Lee Changho and Cho Hyeyeon in the Maxim cup. Note how Lee stuck with the pre-AI theory that made him best in the world for a decade that letting your opponent crawl in sente on the 2nd line is nothing to be sad about (and Elf sometimes agrees), though he also played an AI joseki against the top right shimari.



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Post #2 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:39 am 
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Wow, what an inspiring game to watch.
I love seeing games like this. Their moves are so beautiful and they are trying to get the maximum out of every single move. They also try to not answer their opponent, but go on the attack themselves (shoulderhits for example)

Thanks for sharing!

I didn't know Cho Hye-yeon but I just looked her up and apparently she is called the 'Female Lee Changho' because of her style. :D

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:03 am 
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Ian Butler wrote:
I didn't know Cho Hye-yeon but I just looked her up and apparently she is called the 'Female Lee Changho' because of her style. :D


You should friend her on Facebook. She posts very frequently about her travels and go adventures :-)

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:07 am 
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Ian Butler wrote:
I didn't know Cho Hye-yeon but I just looked her up and apparently she is called the 'Female Lee Changho' because of her style. :D

She beat him by half a point in their last game from the women vs veterans tournament a while back :)
If you go to big tournaments you might meet her, she travels quite a bit to European/US Go Congresses etc and is friendly and speaks English well, I think there are some of her reviews for the USGC on the AGA youtube account. Also she bumped into us at the KPMC last year, and is active on Facebook.

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:41 am 
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Ian Butler wrote:
I didn't know Cho Hye-yeon but I just looked her up and apparently she is called the 'Female Lee Changho' because of her style. :D

She beat him by half a point in their last game from the women vs veterans tournament a while back :)
If you go to big tournaments you might meet her, she travels quite a bit to European/US Go Congresses etc and is friendly and speaks English well, I think there are some of her reviews for the USGC on the AGA youtube account. Also she bumped into us at the KPMC last year, and is active on Facebook.


I'm sure she did a lecture on that game, but I can't seem to find it again...

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Post #6 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:09 pm 
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She was the commentator on the AGA's stream for the 3rd AlphaGo vs Lee Sedol game, the one he got totally duffed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkyVB4Nm9ac

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Post #7 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:10 pm 
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Oh, wow, such a spectacular game!!


Ian Butler wrote:
I didn't know Cho Hye-yeon but I just looked her up and apparently she is called the 'Female Lee Changho' because of her style. :D


She is very famous. I like a lot her old blog, she has stories and lots of analysis that I found very interesting.
Here is a post, one can navigate to previous/next posts using the links on top of each blog entry: https://loveku.livejournal.com/39112.html

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Post #8 Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:39 am 
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Oh, wow, such a spectacular game!!


Ian Butler wrote:
I didn't know Cho Hye-yeon but I just looked her up and apparently she is called the 'Female Lee Changho' because of her style. :D


She is very famous. I like a lot her old blog, she has stories and lots of analysis that I found very interesting.
Here is a post, one can navigate to previous/next posts using the links on top of each blog entry: https://loveku.livejournal.com/39112.html


I sort of thought of that story as Hyeyeon-Cho no Go.

I know :roll:.

Not only was Rui 9p one of the strongest in Korea outright, she was also especially effective against Lee Changho . . . Double difficulty.

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Post #9 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:32 am 
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FYI, Dwyrin streamed an interesting lecture on this game, which is now up on youtube: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RqzE01Pph ... loademail#


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Post #10 Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:11 pm 
i am surprised to see a 9p getting so thoroughly annihilated; the soft-looking white 118 seems to be the decisive attacking move, although black was already in deep doodoo with deadish groups on the left, depending entirely upon killing the long white snake in the middle - a style of play i find myself coming up against all the time way down in the lowly amateur ranks.

Ms Cho looks and sounds like a gentle lady, which is hard to reconcile with such venomous attacking play. Were i to not have known black's identity, i would be fearful of running across him in a dark alley.

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Post #11 Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:45 am 
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And in this week's episode of 'If you liked that, then you'll like this', another slugfest (though the outcome was never really in doubt given their rating difference):



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Post #12 Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:19 am 
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Andrii Kravets EGF 1p made a review of the Lee vs Cho game:

https://explorebaduk.com/2019/03/03/lee ... ravets-1p/

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