as already said, fairness/fairplay is not all that is allowed by the rules

Well, IMHO it is not fair to Jabarin to do mindreading on him.

I can grant you that a pro can refuse to surrend for better reasons:
We can see in 2019, old famous pros are over-represented in loss by more than komi, probably because its a way to recognize the new generation.

But here what could be the reason?
De you have a better explanation?

Or we could move on, post game records and discuss them. The Western pros will certainly appreciate their backbench gets back to discussing that aspect of their profession.

There are programs and websites that allow you to download twitch videos. I'm not sure of the policy L19 regarding that, so I'm not publishing them here, but you can find them. The only thing is that twitch makes for rather "fat" videos, you'll have to pass it through a converter.

Take care.

Turns out that the video is available for replay on Twitch already: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/433553924

IMO he shouldn't have played this game at 8pm after playing 2 games earlier in the day in the Amsterdam tournament (not saying this as an excuse and that he would have won otherwise, losing to Stephen Hu 5d shows he is not in good form atm). The game was originally scheduled for the week before (but delayed to write new rules), so he should either have cancelled his playing the tournament on Sunday or let the team/organisers know he is busy and another EGF pro play instead. If the organisers say "no, player order is fixed" then kick up a fuss and point out the schedule change is due to their mess up re rules. Or was playing in Amsterdam not Israel part of his new responsibility to make 'best efforts to ensure good connection'?

I'm having trouble feeling any congratulations for Eric for playing well as his unsporting behaviour poisoned the event so just hope he loses soon and my enthusiasm returns when Ryan (who has a nice comment as play online series, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsYfp2TBnCQ) plays.

IMO sportsmanship is going BEYOND what is required by the rules to pursue the ideals/spirit of the game. Not doing so does not mean you are unsportsmanlike, it's just neutral. Unsporting behaviour is behaviour within the rules but against the spirit of the game.

Given the controversy, I understand your discontent from the result of game 4 (I don't share the same feeling, but I can see your perspective). But to bring up reasons for losing like the game schedule and other tournament commitments seems a bit immature to me. Maybe if he ate something different for breakfast, the result would have been different. Maybe the weather outside hurt his chances :-p

Just so we're clear on terms, earlier you said this:


What did Eric do that was against the spirit of the game?

On facebook, I raised the possibility of just giving the win for the tournament to the European team, and you said it'd be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. From the tone here, I'm of the impression that no other result would bring you satisfaction.

What I consider unsporting was his objection to the referee's first decision of resuming the game vs Mateusz. Agreeing to it would be neutral. Sporting/magnanimous would be saying "Don't bother with that faff, I resign anyway, well done Matuesz, I don't want lag to spoil our game" (this could be done even before the referee arrived after the delay and ruled for a resumption)

2.) Referee made a single official decision, which was what was announced. The first informal decision was provided by the server (loss by time).

Yes please Kirby, stop.

The point of stopping the argument was not fingerpointing at anyone for continuing their side of the argument. Stopping means stopping all-together.

Besides, I've gotta believe that I should give credence to any post written in big pink letters.