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Post #41 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:53 am 
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Europe's match up next round
1. Ilya Shikshin 3p vs Liu Yunlong 4p
2. Pavol Lisy 2p vs Gong Yanyu 3P
3. Mateusz Surma 2p vs Dong Kun 2p
4. Artem Kachanovskyi 2p vs Qu Ming 6D


Gong Yanyu is the highest ranked player for the Heilongjiang team and has 4-1 record so far. For the others, Liu is 3-2 (although probably faced stronger players being the 1 seed), Dong is 2-3, and Qu 1-4.

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Post #42 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:48 pm 
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WBL 5th round results:

Taiwan Youshi is on bye for this round.

Harbin Six Harmony lost to Hangzhou International 1:2
1. Nyu Eiko 2p vs Dong Tianyi 1p
2. Ye Gui 5p vs Zhou Yushan 1p
3. Chen Manqi 5D vs Yan Ximo 5D

Team Chendu Sports Investment has won every round and is the leader at 10 points. The team is led by 63 year old Kong Xiangming 8p. She was the first 8p female player of China and arguably the strongest female player in the world at her peak. She is the ex wife of Nie Weiping 9p and mother of Ko Reibun 7p. Team Chendu also enlisted Korea's Cho Seungah 2p's help. They have a good chance to advance to WAL with 2 more rounds to go.

Three more teams are tied at 8 points in second place. All three teams hired Korean helps. Zhejiang Sports Lotto has Choi Jeong 9p, Shanghai Qingyi employed Oh Jeonga 4p, China Pingmei invited Kim Hyeoimin 9p. All of them have a good chance to advance to the WAL.

Edit: Kim Hyeoimin was promoted to 9p last month.


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Post #43 Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:05 am 
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Just as I feared, Europe lost 0-4 to team 4. Next they play a comparable team (#1) - this team seems to have played the same opponents as Europe and had similar results. So I expect the games in this last round to be competitive. Europe has 4 points and there are 4 other teams with 4 points, one team with 2 points and one with 1 point. So they will not finish in last place even if they lose in the last round. It would be good if they could at least draw in the last round...

Japan lost 1-3 (only table 2 won), so they are almost out of contention for qualification to the A league. Japan has 7 points and there are 4 teams with 8/9 points. So qualification is not impossible, but unlikely. Last year they finished with 7 points as well. So if they can avoid losing in their last 2 games, they will have the satisfaction of doing better than last year.


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Post #44 Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:49 am 
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CL 6th round results:

Euro pros lost to Team Heilongjiang 0:4
1. Ilya Shikshin 3p vs Liu Yunlong 4p
2. Pavol Lisy 2p vs Gong Yanyu 3P
3. Mateusz Surma 2p vs Dong Kun 2p
4. Artem Kachanovskyi 2p vs Qu Ming 6D

Shanghai Qingyi lost to China Coal Mine Go Institute 1:3
1. Tang Yi 3p vs Ding Lie 6p
2. Pan Yang 3p vs Li Le 4p
3. Zhang Zihan 3p vs Lu Jia 2p
4. Chen Si 6D vs Li Cong 3p

Dalian Yidao tied Nie Weiping Dojo 2:2:
1. Gu Wanshan 1p vs Lou Luoning 5p
2. Wang Zixin 1p vs Zhang Qi 2p
3. Wen Zhaoyi 1p vs Xue Hongzhe 1p
4. Pan Tianxing 5D vs Yu Jiabu 5D

Dalian gets first point in this competition.

Hangzhou Supor tied Henan Luoyang Software 2:2
1. Yu Fulin 2p vs Chen Yang 3p
2. Li Zerui 1p vs Li Jianyu 2p
3. Hu Zihao 1p vs Xu Feiran 2p
4. Wu Yiming 1p vs Duan Boyao 5D

Wu Yiming gets her second win against an opponent who is 3 years younger. And she is only 12!

Team Europe will play Nie Weiping Dojo (team #1) in the last round
1. Ilya Shikshin 3p vs Lou Luoning 5p
2. Pavol Lisy 2p vs Zhang Qi 2P
3. Mateusz Surma 2p vs Xue Hongzhe 1p
4. Artem Kachanovskyi 2p vs Yu Jiabu 5D
Lou Luoning 5p is a teacher at the Nie Dojo. Artem gets to play another young kid Yu Jiabu 5D.

silviu22 already gave a nice analysis of their standing so I will not repeat it here.

After 6 rounds, Guangdong Tianjixing Culture leads with 10 points, followed by Yunnan Go Association, Hangzhou Black White Go Institute, Hangzhou Xiaoshan Mingshi Go Institute (Xiaoshan is a district in Hangzhou and is where I used to live), Hangzhou Go Association with 9 points each.


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Post #45 Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:37 am 
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BL 6th round results:
The team numbers refer to numbers in this results table:
http://www.eweiqi.com/index.php?m=conte ... 3&id=31100

Team Japan (team #11) lost to Team Shanghai Zhongyan Mobile Games Qingyi (team #10) 1:3
1. Hsu Chiayuan 8p vs Zhang Li 6P
2. Shibano Toramaru 7p vs Lee Yeongkyu 9p
3. Motoki Katsuya 8p vs Zhu Yuanhao 5p
4. Yu Zhengqi 8p vs Cao Xiaoyang 5p

Like silviu22 said, Japan is not out of promotion yet but need some luck.


Taiwan Huanxu Electronics(#7) tied Nanjing Mudao Yigao(#6) 2:2
1. Lin Junyan 8p vs Kim Sonjin 5p
2. Xu Haohong 6p vs Liu Yuhang 4p
3. Jian Jingting 4p vs Liu Yuncheng 1p
4. Lai Junfu 4p vs Chen Xuan 2p

Taiwan Zhonghuan(#14) tied China Pingmei Shenma(#9) 2:2
1. Chen Shiyuan 9p vs Park Sangjin 4p
2. Lin Lixiang 7p vs Shu Yixiao 5p
3. Lin Shixun 6p vs Hu Aohua 4p
4. Chen Qirui 5p vs Xu Zexin 3p

After 6 rounds Quzhou Lanke Go Institute(#3), Shanghai Zhongyan Mobile Games Qingyi(#10) and Guangdong East Lake Go Institute(#13) all have 9 points. Team Yunnan(#2), Henan Yuzidao(#8) have 8 points. Japan(#11) tied with their first round opponent Hebei Sports Lotto(#12) with 7 points.

Their next opponent is a strong Yunnan team which had been leading the league until defeated by Quzhou Lanke in this round.

1. Hsu Chiayuan 8p vs Na Hyun 9P
2. Shibano Toramaru 7p vs Fu Chong 6p
3. Motoki Katsuya 8p vs Liu Qifeng 4p
4. Yu Zhengqi 8p vs Hu Xiao 3p
Liu Qifeng 4p is one of the two undefeated players in the BL (the other is new pro Huang Chunqi 2p). Hu Xiao is last year's new pro too and already promoted to 3p!

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Post #46 Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:21 pm 
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WBL 6th round results:

Harbin Six Harmony beat Taiwan Youshi 2:1
1. Nyu Eiko 2p vs Yang Zixuan 3p
2. Ye Gui 5p vs Yu Lijun 2p
3. Chen Manqi 5D vs Bai Xinhui 1D

Choi Jeong 9p beat Kong Xiangming 8p and Zhejiang Sports Lotto caught Chendu Sports Investment, now both have 10 points. China Pingmei Shenma Group also has 10 points. Hangzhou International, Shanghai Qingyi Minghe and Team Heilongjiang all have 8 points.

Zhejiang Sports Lotto will play China Pingmei, Chendu Sports Investment will play Hangzhou International in the last round. All 6 teams still have a chance to advance.

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Post #47 Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:19 pm 
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I notice there are also 3 Japanese players playing for other teams

Onishi Ryuhei 4P plays Board 1 for Team Hebei in B-League;


Am I reading this correctly? Is Onishi Ryuhei playing board 1 for team B12? His record might be is 4 wins & 2 losses, one of the losses being in round 1 against Hsu Chiayuan (Kyo Kagen) 8p, who plays for Japan.

If this is true, his performance is remarkable since his team has the same number of points (7) as team Japan and he is supposedly playing against the strongest opponents (thus carrying his team). His team seems to win whenever he wins :)

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Post #48 Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:07 am 
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Mapleleaf wrote:
I notice there are also 3 Japanese players playing for other teams

Onishi Ryuhei 4P plays Board 1 for Team Hebei in B-League;


Am I reading this correctly? Is Onishi Ryuhei playing board 1 for team B12? His record might be is 4 wins & 2 losses, one of the losses being in round 1 against Hsu Chiayuan (Kyo Kagen) 8p, who plays for Japan.

If this is true, his performance is remarkable since his team has the same number of points (7) as team Japan and he is supposedly playing against the strongest opponents (thus carrying his team). His team seems to win whenever he wins :)


His wins have been against An Dongxu (#100 at GoRatings), Wang Yanhao (#283), Yun Junsang (#67), and Tong Yulin (#110), so yes, have been impressive.


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Post #49 Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:34 am 
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Japan lost 1:3 in 7th round, so they won't be moving to league A next year. It doesn't sound like they are ready for that.

Onishi lost too, but his teammates managed to get a draw so his team has 8 points and is ahead of Japan now.

This page has some pictures: http://www.eweiqi.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=show&catid=133&id=31102


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Post #50 Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:51 am 
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As you probably already know european team lost 0:4 in last round and it seems they ended at 31-st place (from 32 teams).
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columns (if I understand well): place, team, points, board points (=win*2), SODOS.


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That's too bad. Looks to me they weren't really better than last year. It just happened they one of the 3 teams added this year to the C league were weaker than the Europeans.

Also looks like Chinese 12-yr old 5D players are at the level of European 2p players. Artem Kachanovski played only 5D/6D amateur players and managed a 3:4 performance.

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Post #52 Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:03 am 
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We could probably see some progress. :)

2017 26th from 26 (3,14,36)
2018 28th from 29 (4,14,40)
2019 31st from 32 (4,16,42)

silviu22 wrote:
It just happened they one of the 3 teams added this year to the C league were weaker than the Europeans.


One team (I am not sure if it from these 3 you are talking about) from low part of table (did not play with european) surprisingly won in last round. If we could say that year ago we were lucky to not end in last position in this year we were unlucky to not end in 30th place.

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Also looks like Chinese 12-yr old 5D players are at the level of European 2p players.


They are chosen because they are perspective and in their age their strength rise quicker than their rank. So I think this is not so big surprise.

Yes I agree gap between european and word's level is still big! But I don't share feelings that it is "too bad". It is just as it is in this moment and my feelings are that there europe is improving which is "very good". ;)

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Post #53 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:38 am 
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Liso wrote:
We could probably see some progress. :)

2017 26th from 26 (3,14,36)
2018 28th from 29 (4,14,40)
2019 31st from 32 (4,16,42)



If you want to see it as an improvement, yes, there is something that is better: they got a team win for the first time and had one more individual win than last year. (In 2018 they won 7 individual games, this time they won 8 games).

And last year the 4 points was misleading, since one of the wins was against the team that didn't exist in their bye round. So last year's result is really only (2, 14, 40).

This year 4 of their 8 wins was against the last placed team, which didn't exist last year. So if that last team didn't participate this year, their result might have looked much worse in 2019 compared to 2018...

And I didn't intend to say the performance was bad. It was mildly disappointing, since on paper the team they played in the last round seemed of comparable strength. So I was hoping for another draw...

Pavol Lisy did better than last year: won 2 games vs 0 in 2018. He's the only that that can definitely say he improved vs last year. For the others, the results are mixed.

Long story short: maybe they improved, maybe they didn't. It's unclear to me.

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Post #54 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:53 am 
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That's too bad. Looks to me they weren't really better than last year. It just happened they one of the 3 teams added this year to the C league were weaker than the Europeans.

Also looks like Chinese 12-yr old 5D players are at the level of European 2p players. Artem Kachanovski played only 5D/6D amateur players and managed a 3:4 performance.



At a minimum this is a huge over simplification of the matter.

I have both played against a large amount, and been on site to watch games between European and American 4, 5, 6-dan amateurs vs Chinese 4-dan and 5-dan amateurs.

Some of them are weaker than their EGF counterparts, some are on the same level, some are stronger, and some are already stronger than many many professionals.


Thats simply what happens when you have a huge amount of 5-dan amateurs and only the very strongest become professionals.
Not to even mention that some choose not to pursue a professional career, but could beat a rather huge amounts of pros..

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Post #55 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:32 pm 
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CL final standing:
The last three columns are Round Points, Game Points (wins x 2), Sum of Opponent Round Points
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1. Guangdong Tianjixing Culture           11 36 63
2. Hangzhou Go Association                10 42 57
3. Yunnan Go Association                  10 36 61

The three teams above promoted to BL

4. Hangzhou Black White Go Institute      10 36 60
5. Hangzhou Xiaoshan Mingshi Go Institute 10 34 58
6. Hangzhou Go School                     9  34 59
7. Gansu Tianma                           9  34 57
8. Hangzhou International                 9  34 56
9. Shandong Sports Management Center      9  32 57
10.Haiken Heniu                           9  30 48
11.Heilongjiang                           8  34 48
12.Hangzhou Tianyuan                      8  30 55
13.Beijing Phoenix Real Estate            7  30 50
14.Chendu Go Institute                    7  28 52
15.Hangzhou Fengyun Jingcheng             7  28 49
16.Henan Luoyang Software                 7  26 45
17.Peking Univ/Beijing Go Institute       7  24 59
18.Shanghai Tongya Sports                 6  28 38
19.Nie Weiping Dojo                       6  28 33
20.Hangzhou Yizhan Digital                6  26 49
21.Guangdong                              6  26 47
22.China Coal Go Institute                6  26 46
23.Gansu                                  6  26 45
24.Beijing Yiben Qingyuan                 6  26 39
25.Shanghai Sports Club Lanxiang          6  24 46
26.Hangzhou Supor                         6  22 50
27.Jaingxi Go Association                 5  26 46
28.Hebei Sports Lotto                     5  24 38
29.Shenzhen Xingrui                       4  22 43
30.Shanghai Qingyi                        4  22 35
31.Tsinghua Zijing (Team Europe)          4  16 42
32.Dalian Yidao                           1  6  37
Team Europe finished 2nd to the last which is similar to last year. But this year they finally get a win. I think it is an improvement over last year.

I believe the original sponsorship agreement was for three years. Hopefully we will see a renewal of the agreement.


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Post #56 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:31 pm 
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Final standing of WBL:
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1. Zhejiang Sports Lotto         12 32 58
2. Chengdu Sports Investment     12 28 62

the two teams above were promoted to WAL

3. China Pingmei Shenma          10 32 60
4. Shanghai Qingyi Minghe        10 30 64
5. Heilongjiang                  10 26 52
6. Harbin Six Harmony             8 22 38
7. Hangzhou International         8 18 62
8. Hangzhou Go Association        8 18 48
9. Hainan Luoniushan              6 20 64
10.Hebei Sports Lotto             6 18 50
11.Shuipo Liangshan               6 16 54
12.Hangzhou Xizi                  6 16 40
12.Taiwan Youshi                  6 16 40
14.Chongqing Go Institute         6 16 36
15.China Trust Luoyang            6 14 38
16.Beijing Go Institute           4  8 40
17.Beijing Youth Go Institute     2  6 38
Choi Jeong 9p and Kong Xiangming 8p let their teams to the next level. This is especially impressive for 63 years old Kong 8p given that she is semi retired and has not played many professional games in recent years at all. I would like to see her back in competition in next year's WAL.

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Post #57 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:49 pm 
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BL 7th round results:
Result link: http://www.eweiqi.com/index.php?m=conte ... 3&id=31106

Team Japan(#11) lost to Yunnan Go Association(#2) 1:3
1. Hsu Chiayuan 8p vs Na Hyun 9P
2. Shibano Toramaru 7p vs Fu Chong 6p
3. Motoki Katsuya 8p vs Liu Qifeng 4p
4. Yu Zhengqi 8p vs Hu Xiao 3p

Motoki stopped Liu Qifeng's winning streak. Yu Zhengqi lost to the strong new pro Hu Xiao 3p.

Taiwan Huanxu Electronics(#7) tied Shanghai Juyi(#15) 2:2
1. Lin Junyan 8p vs Rui Naiwei 9p
2. Xu Haohong 6p vs Li Kang 7p
3. Jian Jingting 4p vs Wang Wei 4p
4. Lai Junfu 4p vs Chen Yichun 3p

Taiwan Zhonghuan(#14) lost to Shanghai Qingyi(#5) 1:3
1. Chen Shiyuan 9p vs Tong Yulin 4p
2. Lin Lixiang 7p vs An Jungki 5p
3. Lin Shixun 6p vs Qiao Zhijian 5p
4. Chen Qirui 5p vs Guo Xinyi 5p

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Post #58 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:10 pm 
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I do not have 8th round results for individual players.

Here is the final standing for BL.
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1. Quzhou Lanke Go Institute              13 46 64
2. Shanghai Zhongyan Mobile Games Qingyi  12 40 72

The above two teams were promoted to AL.

3. Yunnan                                 11 38 70
4. Hebei Sports Lotto                      9 36 61
5. Henan Yuzidao                           9 34 71
6. Guangdong East Lake Go Institute        9 34 71
7. China Mobile Shanghai                   9 34 64
8. Shanghai Qingyi                         9 34 63
9. Team Japan                              7 32 73
10.Xiamen Xiandao                          7 32 55
11.China Pingmei Shenma                    7 30 67
12.Taiwan Zhonghuan                        7 30 64
13.Shanghai Juyi                           7 30 51

The three teams below were demoted to CL.

14.Nanjing Mudao Yigao                     5 26 53
15.Taiwan Huanxu Electronics               5 24 61
16.Shanghai Foreign Language University    2 12 64
Judging by the final standing Japan lost 1:3 to Rui Naiwei 9p's Shanghai Juyi 1:3 in the last round. Taiwan Huanxu Electronics lost to China Mobile Shanghai 1:3. Taiwan Zhonghuan swept Shanghai Foreign Language University 4:0.


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Post #59 Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:00 am 
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Brief article on the European team in C league (no game records)

https://www.intergofed.org/igf-news-fee ... -2019.html

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A much more in depth article from Artem including game records.

https://eurogofed.org/index.html?id=260


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