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Post #41 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:05 am 
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Here's the game, nice powerful game from Yang. 41 was a cool move, and what LZ wanted too. I had a bit of a scare towards the end when he was trying to kill Tang (who as usual found a way to wriggle out) that he might squander his lead but then he killed a group in a ko in endgame (Tang thought he was behind so one last complication?).


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Post #42 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:13 am 
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Even though Tang couldn't finish his comeback in this game, his resilient style has just been in full display this tournament, and it's quite fun to see.

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Post #43 Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:32 am 
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Final 3rd game;

Tang Weixing defeated Yang Dingxin by resign.
Tang Weixing is 2019 Samsung cup Champion!!!!!!!!!

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Post #44 Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:01 am 
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That's gotta be annoying loss for Yang, but he apparently didn't learn that you shouldn't try to kill Tang and should just win on points without fighting so much. Tang does bait you into it so well though...

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Post #45 Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:23 am 
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Uberdude wrote:
That's gotta be annoying loss for Yang, but he apparently didn't learn that you shouldn't try to kill Tang and should just win on points without fighting so much. Tang does bait you into it so well though...


As if Yang had that choice. Tang' style is shown very well in this game. He plays sort of very 'sticky' weiqi, making his opponent not comfortable. People get provoked in the end, so it is never easy to have a peaceful win against him.

Tang is such a legendary figure in Samsung Cup. For the past seven years: won twice, runner-up twice, semi-finalist twice and quarter-finalist once.

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Post #46 Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:47 am 
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macelee wrote:
Uberdude wrote:
That's gotta be annoying loss for Yang, but he apparently didn't learn that you shouldn't try to kill Tang and should just win on points without fighting so much. Tang does bait you into it so well though...


As if Yang had that choice.
h13 was such a choice at a key moment in the game, Yang tried to attack the white group, rather than defend his on the left. Here's a bot suggestion from Yike, 4 being sente seems to depend on a semeai with the corner ko, so directly at 8 would be a simpler choice:
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macelee wrote:
He plays sort of very 'sticky' weiqi, making his opponent not comfortable. People get provoked in the end, so it is never easy to have a peaceful win against him.

Exactly what I meant by baiting; if you think he is overplaying it's got to be so tempting to want to punish him. Requires great clarity of mind and continuous concentration to hold back and not slip up, and in byo-yomi even harder.

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Post #47 Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:37 am 
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In the commentary area in your screenshot somebody quoted some statistics (that cannot be confirmed easily):

Among the recent 200 games played by Tang Weixing, if at the 100th move, he got a 70% winning rate given by a bot, he only ended up winning 28% of those games; if the bot predicted even games, he ended up winning 41% of those games; if the bot gave his a chance of only 30%, he ended up winning 82% of those games!


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