Life In 19x19 :: 9th Globis Cup in 2022

Moro Chisaki won, but Kevin Yang is in the final chart?

How does this work? Was it some preliminary game?

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Moro Chisaki won, but Kevin Yang is in the final chart?

How does this work? Was it some preliminary game?

They played twice, in a prelim, which was a double-elimination event like the Judan used to be. Chisaki beat Kevin first time, so he went into the Losers' Section. Chisaki lost her next game so also went in to the Losers' Section. There they met again, but this time Kevin won.

Kevin Yang (not Wang) lost, but he is quite strong. In the Second Transatlantic Professional Go League, he won all 6 matches so far, including 2 against Ilya Shikshin.

Full results of the Globis Cup . . .]

I fully expected Kevin Wang to beat both Japanese 1p's. I'm surprised he dropped a game. (...) I don't see how he should be expected struggle with Japanese 1p's on the same level as western pros.

Elom0 wrote:

I fully expected Kevin Wang to beat both Japanese 1p's. I'm surprised he dropped a game. (...) I don't see how he should be expected struggle with Japanese 1p's on the same level as western pros.

Why are they on the same level? Because they're shodan?

Everyone starts at shodan (Tōya dixit?) Also, Japanese players can be more used to tournaments. Specially with sensible time limits. Because I don't know the time limit for this one, but I very much doubt it was anywhere close to 5'+3*30"

Take care.

The page http://www.globiscup.jp/en/ indicates "30 seconds per move, plus 10 periods of extra thinking time, 1 minute each" but it may be outdated.

Author:	Elom0 [ Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:43 am ]
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I wish the Nihon Kiin Youtube Channel Streamed this live, but they uploaded Self-Game Reviews Kevin Wang v Moro Chisaki Even Globis themselves seem to have forgotten since the 8th Globis Cup that they are running a tournament!

Author:	jlt [ Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:49 am ]
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Kevin Yang (not Wang) lost, but he is quite strong. In the Second Transatlantic Professional Go League, he won all 6 matches so far, including 2 against Ilya Shikshin. Full results of the Globis Cup (he is an AGA amateur, contrary to what is written below): Attachment: ScreenShot_07_06_2022_14_10_21.png [ 55.86 KiB \| Viewed 4733 times ]

Author:	pajaro [ Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:15 pm ]
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Moro Chisaki won, but Kevin Yang is in the final chart? How does this work? Was it some preliminary game?

Author:	John Fairbairn [ Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:24 pm ]
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Quote: Moro Chisaki won, but Kevin Yang is in the final chart? How does this work? Was it some preliminary game? They played twice, in a prelim, which was a double-elimination event like the Judan used to be. Chisaki beat Kevin first time, so he went into the Losers' Section. Chisaki lost her next game so also went in to the Losers' Section. There they met again, but this time Kevin won.

Author:	CDavis7M [ Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:28 pm ]
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That chart above looked familiar. It's from the "Go to Everyone" website. https://gotoeveryone.k2ss.info/news/wr/gc/9/ You can see similar tournament charts, including international, in Japanese from the Nihon Kiin. https://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/match/globis/009.html They have links to the profiles of the Japanese players.

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Author:	Elom0 [ Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:55 am ]
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John Fairbairn wrote: Quote: Moro Chisaki won, but Kevin Yang is in the final chart? How does this work? Was it some preliminary game? They played twice, in a prelim, which was a double-elimination event like the Judan used to be. Chisaki beat Kevin first time, so he went into the Losers' Section. Chisaki lost her next game so also went in to the Losers' Section. There they met again, but this time Kevin won. I much prefer the method used by the Samsung and Globis cup. It allows a weaker female or non-CJK players to have at least two games, meaning there is a higher chance of playing someone closer to their level (Taiwanese or Japanese player), but if an upset did occur, it wouldn't necessarily prevent the better player from entering the main rounds. Globis do really seem to practice what they preach. But for some reason the Samsung Cup changed the format when they moved online. Globis didn't feel the need to change the format for online games--what gives? I fully expected Kevin Wang to beat both Japanese 1p's. I'm surprised he dropped a game. The western pros performances in the Sankei Cup were upsets, and Kevin Wang is whooping those pros, looking at his performance in the Atlantic league, so I don't see how he should be expected struggle with Japanese 1p's on the same level as western pros. jlt wrote: Kevin Yang (not Wang) lost, but he is quite strong. In the Second Transatlantic Professional Go League, he won all 6 matches so far, including 2 against Ilya Shikshin. Full results of the Globis Cup . . .] Attachment: Opera Snapshot_2022-06-13_110826_gotoeveryone.k2ss.info.png [ 111.99 KiB \| Viewed 4510 times ]

Author:	Ferran [ Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:49 am ]
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Elom0 wrote: I fully expected Kevin Wang to beat both Japanese 1p's. I'm surprised he dropped a game. (...) I don't see how he should be expected struggle with Japanese 1p's on the same level as western pros. Why are they on the same level? Because they're shodan? Everyone starts at shodan (Tōya dixit?) Also, Japanese players can be more used to tournaments. Specially with sensible time limits. Because I don't know the time limit for this one, but I very much doubt it was anywhere close to 5'+3*30" Take care.

Author:	Elom0 [ Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:32 am ]
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Ferran wrote: Elom0 wrote: I fully expected Kevin Wang to beat both Japanese 1p's. I'm surprised he dropped a game. (...) I don't see how he should be expected struggle with Japanese 1p's on the same level as western pros. Why are they on the same level? Because they're shodan? Everyone starts at shodan (Tōya dixit?) Also, Japanese players can be more used to tournaments. Specially with sensible time limits. Because I don't know the time limit for this one, but I very much doubt it was anywhere close to 5'+3*30" Take care. Coincidentally, this is one of the few fast Japanese Tournaments, he probably set it that way to be closer to international standards (and it also means it can be run in one weekend). The time settings in the Globis Cup are based on the NHK Cup, ten periods of 1 and a half minutes plus an extra eleventh of thirty seconds. I mean a Japanese pro that is still shodan is likely on the same level as average western pro . . . These are the games he won. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYAaSr4y9gY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ83tdCxGwQ the Taiwanese representative nearly made it to the semi-finals . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbaNXuruatA

Author:	jlt [ Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:44 am ]
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The page http://www.globiscup.jp/en/ indicates "30 seconds per move, plus 10 periods of extra thinking time, 1 minute each" but it may be outdated.

Author:	Elom0 [ Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:04 am ]
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jlt wrote: The page http://www.globiscup.jp/en/ indicates "30 seconds per move, plus 10 periods of extra thinking time, 1 minute each" but it may be outdated. No, it's correct, I just miscalculated what it equates to.

Author:	silviu22 [ Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:03 am ]
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Also note how Fukuoka Kotaro won all games except the final. It was the first time a Japanese since the 3rd cup, when Kyo Kagen lost the final. Look at who played in that edition: https://gotoeveryone.k2ss.info/news/wr/gc/3/

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