I encountered the large kiema approach to the 4-4 twice in a game today. In response to the slide, I played the marked stone. I know this joseki for the small knight approach, but I can't find anything on it for the large knight. Is this reasonable?
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As I understand it, there are two normal continuations for the small knight approach version. First, white can take the corner:
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Relative to the small kiema version, black gets a bit more influence -- one more stone for the 16-17 rank wall and more usable influence in the top middle (even without the marked stone). White now has the option of extending to A or B, rather than being limited to C or D, and gets an extra point on the 19 rank. Even without the marked stone, neither side seems obviously advantaged.
The second option takes the outside giving black the corner. However, this strategy does not seem to work at all with the large knight's approach.
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This does not seem to work. With the small knight approach variation, white's stone is at C and white plays A, but in this version, it seems that white can be easily split with A. Same with B or C. As a result, this variation seems very good for black. In the game, black tenukied.