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 Post subject: 4-4 Small knight joseki question
Post #1 Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:48 am 
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I have also been wondering if I've been handling this "non-joseki" variation correctly:

The normal joseki is the following:

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 7 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . 1 6 . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 0 8 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Instead of :w9: above, many of my opponents play :w1: in the following. I've been playing as shown in response. Instead of :b8:, I've also played A or tenuki. The result seems good, but is this the right way to go? If so, then presumably, :w1: is not joseki because white gains little and gives up a lot more influence.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 3 4 5 O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 X 1 O X . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , a . 2 X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 4-4 Small knight joseki question
Post #2 Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:31 am 
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See viewtopic.php?p=226174#p226174
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 Post subject: Re: 4-4 Small knight joseki question
Post #3 Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:51 am 
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Thanks! Must have missed that one :-)

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