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 Post subject: Gomoto's Fuseki Studies Vol. 9: Debunking Sanrensei
Post #1 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:56 am 
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Post #2 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:57 am 
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Variation 1:

(Move 1 to 4 optional)

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$$ | . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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Post #3 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:02 am 
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Variation 1.1:

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . 1 3 0 . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . 5 O 2 4 . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . 7 6 . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 9 8 . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #4 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:09 am 
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Variation 1.2:

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 0 5 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 4 X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . 8 . 9 . 6 2 3 . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


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$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ | . . O X . . . . . 3 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . O . X . O O X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . 1 . . O 2 . 6 . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #5 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:15 am 
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Variation 2:

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


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[go]$$
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #6 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:19 am 
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Variation 2.1:

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . . . X 2 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 6 . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #7 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:26 am 
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In variation 1.2, what's the response to pushing and cutting for move 11?

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:42 am 
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How about variation 1.3?

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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . 2 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Inspired by one of my favourite Cho vs Takemiya games:



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Post #9 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:47 am 
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but you probably wanted to ask about this variation

nice windmill cross cut workshop:



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