jaca wrote:
please can you attach the .sgf you made?
I am 99.99% sure I got the move order wrong.
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| Author: | jaca [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shape move |
Bill Spight wrote: The light dawns. Caution Error Warning Danger! Blinky Bill is on the loose again, throwing banana skins and red herrings around. Pay no attention to him, children, and do not eat any of the sweets he gives you.
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| Author: | jaca [ Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shape move |
jlt wrote: Here is what LZ157 thinks please can you attach the .sgf you made? i don't trust myself to make a sound one any more!. you know, it might have been a real game, although i can't guess whether you got the lastmove right (i know i didn't!); it seems an odd thing for white to play yose so early on - maybe white is John??Thank you to all those that offerred moves on my stuff-up; in my analysis-synthesis of the good version i will try to include suggestions from the Lazies that are close to what you said, so your efforts won't have been wasted. ttfn |
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| Author: | jlt [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:39 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: shape move | ||
jaca wrote: please can you attach the .sgf you made? I am 99.99% sure I got the move order wrong.
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| Author: | Bill Spight [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shape move |
Apparently jaca is hors de combat at the moment. So let me show an interesting plan of play by Deep Leela (Leela 11). DL started with  a move that appealed to me, although I am not at all sure that I would have played it in an actual game.  -  makes Black heavier before living, although at some cost to the strength of the White group on the bottom side. is a standard attack.  is an enterprising response, which I suppose DL predicted. This exchange makes  more urgent, for good choshi. Then  protects the weak group on the top side. The whole sequence makes a nice counterclockwise flow of the stones.   goes back to attack the group on the right side, and then  attacks both White groups on a large scale. bolsters the heavy White group on the right side. Then  is a very nice play combining attack and defense. After  ,  tops the tree.  -  bolsters his group in sente. And then  reaches out for more room.  is a key point, giving White difficulties. The original position is given as a shape problem, I suppose by playing against the White group on the top side. But White has four, count'em, four weak groups. How to coordinate the attack on all of them is not obvious. is a move you might want to make, as it combines moyo building with attack, but if you start with it, it feels kind of soft. DL's plan makes it a sharp play.
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