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 Post subject: I know what that is!
Post #1 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:24 am 
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Here is a minor milestone in my go career. I was playing a game this morning, and felt comfortably ahead, when my opponent tossed in one of those desperate placements - the marked stone at move 151.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . X O O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X . X O X X O O |
$$ | . . O . O O O . . . . . . X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O X O X X . X . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ | . O O O X X . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X . O . X X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O X . . , X O O O X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . X O O O . O . X X . X X . |
$$ | . X O . O O X . X O . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | 4 O . . . . X . X O . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . 3 . O . . . . X . O . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . X O . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . Y 2 . X O . O , . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . a O . X O . O . O O X X . X O O . |
$$ | . . 5 b O X X O . . O X X . X . X O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]




I connected, and he tried to live, and faced with :b5: , my eyes focused on a and b. Instead of caving in and playing a (my "basic instinct" is: panic), I suddenly and shockingly recognized that if I blocked at b, my opponent would get stuck with a dead L group. While many of you wouldn't consider this something to write home about, for me it was a thrilling event. A rare concrete indication that I've learned something, and can actually apply it. I played b, he played a and got stuck with the L group, which went on to die as it should, and I won handily.

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Post #2 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:39 am 
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daal wrote:
Here is a minor milestone in my go career. ...
While many of you wouldn't consider this something to write home about ...

On the contrary, I think this is something to write about.
Congrats!

(I also enjoy when being able to apply some corner-shape-knowledge in my games. Nice example here.)

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Post #3 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:33 am 
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It's definitely something to write home about. Starting from your diagram I tried to read out how to make it a dead L. It took a while, probably longer if I didn't know what shape to make. So congratulations! :clap:

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Post #4 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:16 am 
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I recognised this instantly. I find it very strange that I could read it out as a problem quite easily, but when faced with similar situations in my own games, I often don't read it out correctly and die. :mad:
Also, congratulations!

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Post #5 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:49 am 
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Good reading! Have you looked at this though?

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[go]$$Bc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . X O O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X . X O X X O O |
$$ | . . O . O O O . . . . . . X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O X O X X . X . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ | . O O O X X . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X . O . X X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O X . . , X O O O X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . X O O O . O . X X . X X . |
$$ | . X O . O O X . X O . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | O O . . . . X . X O . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X 1 O . . . . X . O . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . X O . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . Y O . X O . O , . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X O . O . O O X X . X O O . |
$$ | . . X O O X X O . . O X X . X . X O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #6 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:45 pm 
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@shapenaji: Hehe, my first reaction as well, though fortunately white is fine.

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Post #7 Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:25 am 
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shapenaji wrote:
Good reading! Have you looked at this though?


No, I hadn't ... o.O After the diagram below, I would have had trouble trying to read out all the variations during the game.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . X O O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X . X O X X O O |
$$ | . . O . O O O . . . . . . X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O X O X X . X . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ | . O O O X X . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X . O . X X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O X . . , X O O O X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . X O O O . O . X X . X X . |
$$ | . X O . O O X . X O . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | O O 2 . . . X . X O . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X 1 O . . . . X . O . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . X O . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O , . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . 3 O . X O . O . O O X X . X O O . |
$$ | . . X O O X X O . . O X X . X . X O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Post #8 Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 pm 
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L Group :)

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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . X O O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X . X O X X O O |
$$ | . . O . O O O . . . . . . X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O X O X X . X . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ | . O O O X X . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O X . O . X X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O X . . , X O O O X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . X O O O . O . X X . X X . |
$$ | . X O . O O X . X O . O X . O O O . . |
$$ | O O O . . . X . X O . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X . O . . O . X O O . |
$$ | . W . O X . X . X O . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O , . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . O . O O X X . X O O . |
$$ | . . X O O X X O . . O X X . X . X O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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