Lecture 19
Something short
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:22 pm ] |
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lovelove wrote: Lecture 18 Invasion after joseki (Part 2) In the 2nd variation, white r9 will often be better than s8 as it also connects but stops black playing r9 himself to build some outside influence. |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:51 pm ] |
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Uberdude wrote: lovelove wrote: Lecture 18 Invasion after joseki (Part 2) In the 2nd variation, white r9 will often be better than s8 as it also connects but stops black playing r9 himself to build some outside influence. R9 instead of S8 is a outdated Japanese joseki, which is now considered inferior, from modern research. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:21 am ] |
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lovelove wrote: Uberdude wrote: lovelove wrote: Lecture 18 Invasion after joseki (Part 2) In the 2nd variation, white r9 will often be better than s8 as it also connects but stops black playing r9 himself to build some outside influence. R9 instead of S8 is a outdated Japanese joseki, which is now considered inferior, from modern research. Can you please explain the change in understanding? |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:58 am ] |
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Uberdude wrote: lovelove wrote: Uberdude wrote: In the 2nd variation, white r9 will often be better than s8 as it also connects but stops black playing r9 himself to build some outside influence. R9 instead of S8 is a outdated Japanese joseki, which is now considered inferior, from modern research. Can you please explain the change in understanding? Check my PM. |
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| Author: | BigBadBuu [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:10 am ] |
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No, tell everybody. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:15 am ] |
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From the PM, it seems lovelove misunderstood me. He thought I was suggesting the following play at r9 for black rather than the nobi to the second line. my understanding of this move is that it can be playable, but it makes white get stronger on the outside so the second line move should be considered the default best move. What I was suggesting was r9 for white in place of s8 when black connects in the corner on the outside, allowing the s6 descent in sente: q8 and s8 are now miai, so white is connected. The advantage of this move over s8 is that black can less easily do something useful with his r8 stone, as shown in the next diagram where he builds influence (and white increases his territory in return). A downside of r9 is that if black plays s8 even though you capture the 2 stones it is only one eye so if black gets stronger around this aji could be annoying, but s8 similarly is not an unconditional 2 eyes though the eyespace does seem slightly better to me. P.S. Also s4 at t4 is better yose. |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:09 pm ] |
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Lecture 19 Something short |
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| Author: | logan [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:32 pm ] |
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Uberdude wrote: Yes,  is what I learned from a Korean haengma book.In anycase, the push at  is what's most important. It's a move to remember.lovelove wrote: It's even more fun when you use it to kill a group Teaching game I remember: |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:37 pm ] | ||
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Lecture 20 Trick move (Part 1) *Always look at the former branch first.*
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:26 am ] | ||
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Lecture 21 Trick move (Part 2) *Always look at the former branch first.*
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:50 am ] | ||
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Lecture 22 Trick move (Part 3) *Always look at the former branch first.*
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:10 am ] | ||
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Lecture 23 Trick move (Part 4) *Always look at the former branch first.*
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| Author: | jts [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:28 am ] |
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Lovelove, thank you again for posting this series. A question about 22: is it "no ko" in the sense that no threat is big enough, or in the sense that w can't win the ko by connecting? |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:30 am ] | ||
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Lecture 24 Trick move (Part 5) *Always look at the former branch first.*
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:35 am ] |
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jts wrote: Lovelove, thank you again for posting this series. A question about 22: is it "no ko" in the sense that no threat is big enough, or in the sense that w can't win the ko by connecting? You are right in both. In addition, that ko is a direct ko for black, but approach ko for white; white needs to ignore black's ko threat twice to win the ko. |
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:03 am ] | ||
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Lecture 25 4-4 corner attachment joseki (Part 1) *Always look at the former branch first.*
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| Author: | lovelove [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:08 am ] |
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I have just posted five lectures in a row. This should be catching up my promise, "one lecture a day", and also realized it is not possible to be continued.  Changing plans, I will post these lectures in Monday, Wednesday, Fridays. Sorry! |
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| Author: | Phoenix [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:40 am ] |
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lovelove wrote: I have just posted five lectures in a row. This should be catching up my promise, "one lecture a day", and also realized it is not possible to be continued. Changing plans, I will post these lectures in Monday, Wednesday, Fridays. Sorry! That's more than adequate, lovelove. I can't speak for everyone, but I personally love your short lectures. I'll be looking forward to some more. Thank you very much!! 
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| Author: | p2501 [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:30 pm ] |
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lovelove wrote: I have just posted five lectures in a row. This should be catching up my promise, "one lecture a day", and also realized it is not possible to be continued. Changing plans, I will post these lectures in Monday, Wednesday, Fridays. Sorry! Nothing to apologize for! Love reading the lectures! |
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| Author: | Bonobo [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:14 pm ] |
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What they say: No reason to apologize. You are giving us something, thank you! |
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