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| Author: | RobertJasiek [ Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there a post-AI dictionary of basic joseki? |
Jæja wrote: place where I can pick up the book online? Easy Learning: Joseki (book or PDF) is available here: http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/shop.html xela wrote: I want to put in a good word for "38 basic joseki" [...] as each concept is pointed out. Like every joseki selection with essentially correct variations, it is possible to learn from this one. I did by spending 4 hours per joseki. However, the book has these problems: 1) Its selection is outdated. 2) Among its variations, there is a too large percentage of hardly useful ones. 3) It has too few josekis. 4) All the good things (incl. being a toolbox of how to think about joseki) you list as something that could be learned are not or hardly mentioned in the book but must be reinvented by the reader. I could (because of spending 4 hours per joseki) but probably not everybody can. 5) Many concepts are missing and are very unlikely to be reinvented by the reader. |
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| Author: | Bki [ Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there a post-AI dictionary of basic joseki? |
Gomoto wrote: In actual analyzing soon you will have to use a combination of AI and Josekipedia (much more variations than the online go joseki dictionary) To be honest I don't exactly trust josekipedia. I do use it as a quick reference if I need to look up some variation, but I wouldn't use it for serious study. AI can also be unwieldy when it comes down to the study of joseki, given that they don't really care about the local result if they get enough compensation elsewhere. Which isn't a failing of bots, but for us humans it's easier to classify variations by their local result and then account for the whole board positions. |
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