RobertJasiek wrote:
OtakuViking wrote:
no magic secret 'dan' principles and strategies to learn.
Maybe not magic, but of course there are many dan principles and strategies. I agree that there are only relatively few such books for dans.
I think the distinction I want to make is that anyone can memorize basic principles, strategies, proverbs, joseki's and so on, but that doing so does not make you a dan level player. Thus, nothing stops a kyu player from learning a whole bunch of theoretical knowledge and still losing miserably to a stronger player if his reading skills aren't in place. Of course these two things are complementary and no truly strong player neglects either. However, I think it's possible to become a dan level player without learning alot of Go theory by simply getting strong at reading and then learning by playing. You see that type of player alot on wbaduk and tygem and they can be fairly strong. However, the other extreme (lacking reading ability) would fall to pieces even if he/she had 7d theoretical knowledge.
I think that most if not all dan level principles and strategies are merely extensions of basic principles and strategies that even a 10kyu could learn. That, along with mistake reduction and reading ability makes one a dan player, not partaking of the mystical dan level principle soup distilled in book form, should such a source exist. I know there are some problem books like volume 7 of Graded go problems for dan players (excellent book series btw), that illustrate opening and middle game principles via problems. I don't think any of the principles themselves can be ranked, only the difficulty of the problems and thus how hard that principle is to apply in any given case. As one becomes stronger, one can apply the principle more and more and with greater skill. Thus, a basic principle like Make a base, evolves as you gain more tactical skill. To the beginner make a base might just mean extending two spaces on the side or enclosing the corner, that sort of move. But then as you get stronger, you suddenly start attaching to strong positions and making sabaki, a more high level application of 'making a base'. Not the best example, but I hope you get the gist of what I'm trying to say. Namely that the principles aren't ranked, but that it is the skill with which we apply the principles that make them 'dan level'.
My point is that in theory a kyu player could learn all theoretical knowledge of go but still lose because she doesn't possess enough raw reading power and tesuji skill to carry these principles out. Learning go theory and principles is a great booster, but I believe that cultivating the raw power of calculation is the most important thing and that everything else is auxilliary.
(sorry that was a rather long post lol)