1) A dan player should know hundreds of josekis. How do you look them up again every time? Have you built your own joseki variations database?

2) During a game, you may not look up databases, so the possibility of doing so does not replace your memory.

3) How much time have you spent just on compiling your own joseki variations database?

4) How representative is your own joseki variations database? Are you sure not to have overlooked important subtrees and important types of josekis?

I'm suggesting books and databases...

I don't remember every joseki line in my books nor of course every opening line in tens of thousands of games.

I still have no clue if you have a point in this discussion or are just mindlessly driveling...

Ah, ok, and I thought you would be suggesting only databases:)



I was trying to find out how using only databases could possibly be good enough. But... since we agree on using both books and databases, I cannot find out from you:)

I own a few joseki references, and GoGoD.



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My study of joseki began with a book about joseki mistakes. My second book on joseki was how to play after joseki. I have no regrets for choosing that course of study. Rather than simply trying to memorize joseki, I started off getting some understanding of why joseki plays are good. Then I learned something about the future aims of joseki. That helps me decide between two play that are not bad locally.

My third book was the Kitani-Suzuki Small Joseki Dictionary, which, as people here are aware, I still refer to. I make no effort to memorize joseki.

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