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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: on screen stones should be square!
Post #1 Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:10 pm 
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The symmetry of Go is the symmetry of a square. Square stones reflect that.

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Post #2 Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:35 pm 
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The circle has more axes of symmetry than any other shape. I think the board should be round.

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 Post subject: Re: on screen stones should be square!
Post #3 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:32 am 
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Very funny indeed :lol:
Still I wonder what a goban tiled like my bathroom with square stones would do with my perception of the game. Is there any Go software that has square stones as an option?

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Post #4 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:50 am 
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DrStraw wrote:
The circle has more axes of symmetry than any other shape. I think the board should be round.


Why not taking a "standard goban" and change the rules of the game so that we have a "border wrap"

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[go]$$B
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$$ | . . . . a . . . . |
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$$ | . . , . . . , . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 . . . , . . . 3 |
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$$ | . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 4 X . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]


:b1: and :b3: would then be a nobi shape... :w4: would be catured if black plays at "a"
That's actually a sphere goban...

[edit]I post that as I just solved the 19x19 yesterday night so I need something more challenging now :lol:
ok... end of dreaming, back to study :study: ...
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 Post subject: Re: on screen stones should be square!
Post #5 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:20 am 
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oca wrote:
DrStraw wrote:
The circle has more axes of symmetry than any other shape. I think the board should be round.


Why not taking a "standard goban" and change the rules of the game so that we have a "border wrap"


I tried toroidal go quite a lot in my early days of playing. Ladders are interesting.

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Post #6 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:20 am 
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Good idea. While you're at it, please place the square stones in the spaces and not on the intersections. It would make go a good deal easier imo.

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Post #7 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:28 am 
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DrStraw wrote:
I tried toroidal go quite a lot in my early days of playing.


That's nice and all, but did you use donuts as stones? :D

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Post #8 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:39 am 
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cyclops wrote:
The symmetry of Go is the symmetry of a square. Square stones reflect that.

The empty points are indeed squares :-D (I won’t tell whether upright or whether they are standing on one corner, though.)
And the stones are actually square inside, they hide their intentions behind their outer rounding.

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DrStraw wrote:
I tried toroidal go quite a lot in my early days of playing.


That's nice and all, but did you use donuts as stones? :D
<heartburn> OH THE NOES! </heartburn> Bagels! Bagels!

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<Ingrid>

Shows just how hip Go ishi are.

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Post #10 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:42 pm 
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Post #11 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:40 pm 
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Who is Ingrid?
Ingrid was a woman in the usenet who used to reply to her own posts :D

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Post #12 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:05 pm 
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