Leela is much stronger than the bad luck with a life/death issue makes it her look like sometimes.
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| Author: | goame [ Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
roy7 wrote: Sneegurd wrote: goame wrote: Can someone post here the exe? No matter if this would be 10% slower on my machine. Binaries: https://github.com/zakki/Ray/releases Yes it works in Smartgo. Use the non GPU binary. EDIT: There is no such binary. I guess as an AMD user you cannot use it. The GPU version will work, it just runs in cpu only mode. And it's 30x-100x times slow per author without GPU. After cd ... 'make' doesn't work. |
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| Author: | goame [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
https://github.com/zakki/Ray/issues?q=i ... is%3Aissue See Issues: Open and Closed for more informations. |
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| Author: | pnprog [ Wed May 24, 2017 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Hi everybody! Since the last message on this thread, it seems zakki has been putting a lot of effort into Ray, and Ray is now at version rn-4.2.4 I am really willing to try this bot, but so far have not been able to compile it myself, either on Windows or Ubuntu. Has one of you been able to compile it on Ubuntu, and then could share a "recipe" to do it, starting from a fresh Ubuntu install? |
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| Author: | pookpooi [ Wed May 24, 2017 7:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
It's very impressive improvement, Rn.4.2-4c is now almost as strong as Zen-14.7-1c0g |
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| Author: | Krama [ Sun May 28, 2017 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Who is stronger Rayon or Leela? |
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| Author: | pnprog [ Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Krama wrote: Who is stronger Rayon or Leela? The situation is not so clear, but apparently, it really depends of the hardware used:
At that point, I think Ray needs a bigger user base to push its development forward. |
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| Author: | hydrogenpi7 [ Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
pnprog wrote: Krama wrote: Who is stronger Rayon or Leela? The situation is not so clear, but apparently, it really depends of the hardware used:
At that point, I think Ray needs a bigger user base to push its development forward. Does anyone know how well does the current version of Ray scale? http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html The listing says the Ray 4.3-4c is only about 100 or so ELO ahead of Leela-0100b3_750Ti. But since it does better with Cuda than Leela, is it possible that if I play it on something like the below configuration that it might beat an average pro? http://i.imgur.com/36CaJgm.png I wonder why Leela is not opens source like ray, and about ray needing a bigger base, if Ray would come out with a GUI, I think since most people these days have a powerful GPU for gaming, that it would quickly get a larger base . |
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| Author: | hydrogenpi7 [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
hydrogenpi7 wrote: pnprog wrote: Krama wrote: Who is stronger Rayon or Leela? The situation is not so clear, but apparently, it really depends of the hardware used:
At that point, I think Ray needs a bigger user base to push its development forward. Does anyone know how well does the current version of Ray scale? http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html The listing says the Ray 4.3-4c is only about 100 or so ELO ahead of Leela-0100b3_750Ti. But since it does better with Cuda than Leela, is it possible that if I play it on something like the below configuration that it might beat an average pro? http://i.imgur.com/36CaJgm.png I wonder why Leela is not opens source like ray, and about ray needing a bigger base, if Ray would come out with a GUI, I think since most people these days have a powerful GPU for gaming, that it would quickly get a larger base . I cannot get Rayon to beat Leela not even a single game. Unless I'm missing something or did something very wrong, I am confident that Leela is way stronger than Ray... https://imgur.com/a/TrvPD https://gokibitz.com/kifu/B1fNfvwzZ https://gokibitz.com/kifu/B1twxPDfW https://gokibitz.com/kifu/HkdyyDwGb I'm playing on 4790k with a gtx 1050ti mini using Gtp versions of latest leela and ray on sabaki board and leela wins everything though I set same time limits . What is going wrong? I've tested short games, long games, on my home computer, on Google's cloud with 8x K80's and 24 CPUs.... Turned off pondering for Leela. Made sure I used the GPU version of Rayon and latest Rn4.2.5.... each time Leela GPU GTP beats Ray hands down... |
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| Author: | trex1234 [ Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Did you try it with the newest version? |
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| Author: | Krama [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Rayon also uses Nvidia gpus while Leela works best with AMD right? For example, if you have amd you can't use rayon gpu mode. |
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| Author: | roy7 [ Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Krama wrote: Rayon also uses Nvidia gpus while Leela works best with AMD right? For example, if you have amd you can't use rayon gpu mode. Leela works fine either way. I believe at the moment the 1080Ti is the strongest GPU for Leela. Not sure on what Vega will do. Rayon only works with Nvidia because of the machine learning library they chose. |
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| Author: | Cyan [ Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
New version (4.20.4) is a lot stronger than leela. This is rayn giving leela a 2-stone handicap and completely destroying it. Both sides are given 15 minutes. |
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| Author: | Drew [ Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
blast. That top left corner is like watching a school of piranhas in slow motion. |
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| Author: | Schachus [ Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
It seems Leela is still bad at semeai. |
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| Author: | Cyan [ Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Leela lost to ray again with 3 stones handicap. |
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| Author: | roy7 [ Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
Leela is much stronger than the bad luck with a life/death issue makes it her look like sometimes.
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| Author: | djhbrown [ Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI |
black 80 the losing move? played because Leela doesn't know it needs two eyes to live + it has no need to kill white to win? |
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