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 Post subject: A thread for AQ-Android
Post #1 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:51 am 
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Hello, I think this nice app deserves to have a thread.

It has been developped by a young man from China, and I first heard about it on Reddit (cbaduk)

On a recent phone or tablet, the installation is easy, and the level is astounding...
On my phone, at its absolute lowest setting, it's already 2-3 Dan, at mid-level (30 or 40 sec. per move), it's around 4-5 Dan (determined by playing against CSDL)
Obviously, depending on your phone or tablet, AQ's strength could be higher or lower...

V.1.0.7.2 is in English (translation by Bor-ka, you can contact him at Reddit) :
DOWNLOAD V.1.0.7.2 HERE

V1.0.9.1 is nicer still. If I understood correctly, it should be in English if your system is in English, but in my case, it's in Chinese (not very important, because the app is very intuitive, and moreover, Bor-ka will probably translate it soon)
DOWNLOAD V1.0.9.1 HERE

You can change the style of the stones and the style of the board , there's a nice win% screen, another screen with precise usage of time, and directly under the board, you can see the better moves considered by AQ. You can see the false eyes, the moyos, a heatmap, you can save or open games, and you can even see several graphic variations. You can play against it, or make it play against itself, with different levels and/or handicap.

And... the app is free :clap:

I don't know the developper or the translator, but I hope you'll enjoy this as much as I do !


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Post #2 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:25 pm 
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Here is the english version, thanks to the same translator (Bor-ka).

Download V1.0.9.1-EN here
You'll have to uninstall any previous version first,before installing this one.

From the thread at Reddit :
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And if I have understood the author on Chinese forum correctly (using google translate) he is now working on calibrating the engine settings to the kyu/dan scale.
What would be great IMO is option to zoom-entry (for my 5" screen it is rather difficult to hit the spot) and autosave and transparent auto-continue like in other go programs (Crazy Stone or Go GridMaster).
And you won't believe what the author is being asked for on the forum. Autosave? Zooming and various input methods? Variations and suggestions? Analysis (like in crazy stone)? Nah... Stone sounds. Facepalm.

Some screenshots :

AQ/human v AQ/human
setting the levels (time between 0 sec. and 120 sec per move)

Board screen , here with move numbers, heatmap, the 3 most likely candidate moves, Black win% = 0.359

Time graphs : green = W time, grey = W average, red = B time. black = B average time

win %

Menu during play

And a nice graphical variations screen (not in the screenshots)


An absolute must if you have an Android tablet or phone !


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Post #3 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:37 pm 
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1.0.7 vs. 1.0.9 version difference? other than info viewing, such as various possible moves' winrates
how about strength, 1.0.9 any improvement? might I ask if you get some feeling about it?
right now i am testing 1.0.9 (setting: 40,30,67 for that 3 parameters) against zen7 5dan manually!
AQ computer version, needs 64 bit CPU PC, I do not have one yet
note: why 67, because i have experienced lower setting for the third will have blindspot for life-and-death false eye detection.

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:16 am 
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I think there's no difference in strength between v1.07 and 1.09, only the UI differs.
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why 67, because i have experienced lower setting for the third will have blindspot for life-and-death false eye detection.
That's good to know, thanks !

For AQ (windows PC version) you MUST have a good graphic card, otherwise you can only use AQ-mini (the CPU-only version) which is several stones weaker.
Anyway, even with a good graphic card, AQ is slowly giving way to LeelaZero, which is already stronger by one stone...
I hope AQ's developper comes up with a new and stronger version, because I love this AQ-LZ competition !

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:05 am 
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White:: AQ android 1.0.9 setting: 40,30,67 (samsung tablet)
Black:: zen7 setting: 5Dan (XP, pentium 4, 1 core)
AQ 1.0.9 won
Note1: AQ 1.0.9's winrate went up steadily and never dropped. Zen7 resigned after 100th move casted by AQ 1.0.9. According to Zen7's estimation, white was leading about 21.5 points.
Next I will test Zen7 30 second setting against AQ 1.0.9, and AQ 1.0.9 against Crazy Stone android commercial which has 5dan capability and it is the highest dan available in android Go currently.
Note2: AQ1.0.9's "undo" can only work when AQ finishs it's thinking and casts its move, otherwise, AQ program may crash.

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Post #6 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:36 pm 
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CrazyStone commercial(black 5dan) vs. Aq 1.0.9 (white 40,30,67), the game runs on single samsung tablet.
CrazyStone setting: 5dan, slow
Aq 1.0.9 setting: 40, 30, 67
result: Black+resigned, black won.
Note1: CrazyStone slow means around 10 seconds per move +- 4 seconds.
Note2: AQ winrates fluctuated, up to high as 70's (around move 66-72,) then drop to 35%-25% and never recovered. According to zen7, CrazyStone black final winrate was 87%.

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Post #7 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:23 pm 
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Thank you for these interesting games.

Three things about AQ1.0.9 :

1) AQ doesn't have a pondering switch (on/off)
2) I think AQ has a fixed komi of 6.5, even for handicap games !
3) Does anyone know if there's a new version, or where one can find information about it ?

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Post #8 Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:11 am 
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There's a new version, 1.2.1.7, you can choose to play against AQ, at various settings, or against Leela zero, choosing the weights, time, etc.
You can analyse a game with AQ, watch AQ or LZ play against themselves, with or without handicap, beautiful !

My language is neither English nor Chinese, so the app comes in Chinese by default.
To have it in English, you have to go to Settings, general management, language, and switch to English, the switch between languages takes seconds.

Download link : https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/issue ... -413115824
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dmL9OD ... vZ7d2/view

Some screenshots :
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https://ibb.co/g99fAz
https://ibb.co/jGsvce
https://ibb.co/n0f93K
https://ibb.co/efgcqz
https://ibb.co/jB1hOK
https://ibb.co/hHOhqz


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Post #9 Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:16 am 
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New version V 1.2.1.9

Improvements :
Bug fixes for AQ and Leela zero
Option for more randomness in the first moves for Leela Zero
Up to 3200 playouts for Leela Zero

Download link ---> AQ 1.2.1.9

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Post #10 Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:28 am 
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Next time against LZ I should probably use that ladder patch. Or give it more time.
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Post #11 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:43 am 
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I think the best network is #157 at this time.
On my phone, with 20 sec per move (in fact, around 10-12sec) it's very strong.
I've just run a H5 game against Crazy Stone DL set at 2D (CSDL is usually considered as rather correct with its strength levels)
(settings on the left picture)

Leela rapidly killed 2 corners, and won very easily. I think it could have played H6 or H7

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Post #12 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:04 am 
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New version 1.2.2.1

Improvements:
Bug fixes
Leela zero : new analysis mode

In this mode, after selecting number of threads and weight file, you can load and analyse a game, or you can play B and W, with LZ showing variations, the hotspots, and their expected winrate.
You have options, such as max thinking time or max candidate count
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Post #13 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:35 am 
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Calvin Clark wrote:
Next time against LZ I should probably use that ladder patch. Or give it more time.


8 visits is indeed very (very) low. It's probably less reading than what you are doing most of the time

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Post #14 Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:26 am 
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New V1.2.2.3

1.Support leela tewari
2.Update leela engine
3.Bug fix

DOWNLOAD HERE

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Post #15 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:31 am 
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update 1.2.2.4

1. Lila analysis support to view charts
2. You can see the lila log of both black and white
3. engine update to the latest 0914 lile

for updating press "update" in aq or download http://aqgo.ezandroid.cn/%E9%98%BFQ%E5% ... ieba_1.apk

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Post #16 Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:36 am 
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update 1.2.2.7

1. Fix many bugs
2. Support more board and stone theme
3. Support take stone sound
4. Leela engine update to 0918

http://aqgo.ezandroid.cn/AQGO_1.2.2.7_T ... -09-25.apk

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Any chance of an iOS/OSX port ? Thank you. :)

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Post #18 Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:43 pm 
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If, in your phone or tablet's parameters, your language is neither Chinese nor English, V.1.2.2.7 is by default in English.

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Post #19 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:19 am 
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update 1.2.2.8

1. Fix many bugs
2. Themes and sound effects are placed in the general settings to support WYSIWYG.
3. No longer get phone permissions when launching the app

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Post #20 Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:39 am 
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Is is possible to run dynamic komi version of Leela, to play games with high handicap?
Currently Leela resigns too early when H3 and bigger...

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