It is currently Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:44 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 63 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #41 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:26 pm 
Beginner

Posts: 5
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 0
hyperpape wrote:
Awesome! I've bought it and analyzed two games so far. Now I just need a new iPhone. Can anyone comment on how fast it does playouts on an XR or XS?


On iPhone X it is 14-15 nps.

What is nps?

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #42 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:00 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
hyperpage san,

Thank you for purchasing my app!
I am asking my users to tell me nps on Twitter if they have XR or XS, but currently no responses...
In my estimation based on the comparison between A12X and A12, XR or XS will achieve about 100 nps. But I am not sure.

When I get some related information, I will tell you it.

Thank you!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #43 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:07 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
casch san,

Thank you for rating my app!

And also thank you for information about iPhone X.
It is quite helpful for me.

Nps means number of playouts per sencond.

In the time parity condition, large nps means strong.
Or you can get a certain search result quickly if nps is large.
(Even if nps is not large on your device, giving the app time eventually let the app show similar result as powerful devices.)

Thank you!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #44 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:22 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 37
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 2
On An Empty Board

iPhone 5s, 1.1 N/s
iPhone 6 Plus, 1.4 N/s
iPhone X, 13-15 N/s
iPhone Xs Max, 130-160 N/s
iPad Air 2, 2.6 N/s

For Devices Lower than A12 it will be nice to be able to start the study on demand else its impossible to scroll all the way to the move you really want to study
The magnifying option should be disabled by default on iPads

Thanks !!!


Last edited by Kaliwan on Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

This post by Kaliwan was liked by: ez4u
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #45 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:35 am 
Tengen

Posts: 4200
Location: North Carolina
Liked others: 432
Was liked: 685
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 3k
My ideal workflow is what I had with crazy stone--I start the analysis, and leave it to run in the background for an hour or more, then see what the engine has thought of. I wonder if you have any intent to support that kind of use?

Also, possible bug report: one thing I've seen is that when the app is evicted from memory, I have to restart from scratch.

_________________
Occupy Babel!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #46 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:03 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
Kaliwan san,

Thank you for your great information!
I am surprised that A12 Bionic performs much better than expected.
Your information will be helpful for customers to decide the purchase.

And I understand your two feature requests.
I will consider those.

Thank you!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #47 Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:10 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
hyperpape san,

About back ground mode, I was worried about battery consumption.
My app consumes all charge current on new iPad Pro in study mode.^^;
I will think if there are any good manners.

And about the bug, yes, your are right, it is a bug.
I will fix it in the next version soon.
I am sorry for inconvenience.

Thank you!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #48 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:29 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 37
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 2
Mr y_ich
Also if possible an option to disable move sounds :bow:
Thanks

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #49 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:15 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
Kaliwan san,

Currently, my app outputs move sounds even in manner mode.
This is a bug.
Next version, which was already applied, will fix it.
Is it enough for you?
Or do you want a complete silent mode?

Thank you so much for keeping playing my app!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #50 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:05 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 37
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 2
Complete silent mode will be a nice option :bow:
One feature you may implement is a slider to arrive to the desire position to study (instead of pressing 100 times :mrgreen: )
you could download the pandanet ios app and give it a look

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #51 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:00 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 29
Liked others: 84
Was liked: 5
Yes, it would be really good to be able to navigate through games easier.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #52 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:55 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
Kaliwan san, dust san,

I wiil consider about a slider or something in the next major version.
And will put a setting menu with various options.

Thank you for your comments!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #53 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:52 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
Hi.

Bugfix version is now available.

https://itunes.apple.com/app/%E5%9B%B2% ... 35374?mt=8

Enjoy!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #54 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:19 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
I am sorry that I introduced a new bug in the latest version.
You will not be able to see variations in study mode.

So if you have not updated it yet, please DO NOT update.
If you already updated, please wait next version.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #55 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:05 am 
Tengen

Posts: 4200
Location: North Carolina
Liked others: 432
Was liked: 685
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 3k
y_ich wrote:
About back ground mode, I was worried about battery consumption.
My app consumes all charge current on new iPad Pro in study mode.^^;
I will think if there are any good manners.

That makes sense. I've noticed how fast it drains the battery when unplugged.

I usually plug in my phone before doing analysis, though. Could you detect battery percentage or check that the device is charging? I've never done iOS programming, but I think I've heard you have access to the battery state.

_________________
Occupy Babel!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #56 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:33 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
hyperpape san,

You can check if the device is charging or not programmatically.
But honestly still I hesitate to consider it positively because Apple restricts continuous background jobs severely.
Only jobs such as playing music, tracking GPS, are allowed.

Doesn't keeping the app foreground work well for you?

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iPad with that strong neural network
Post #57 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:44 am 
Oza
User avatar

Posts: 2114
Location: Germany
Liked others: 7634
Was liked: 866
Rank: OGS SDK
Universal go server handle: trohde
y_ich wrote:
I am sorry for forgetting the app URL.
Could you try the following URL for German?
https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/%E5%9B% ... 35374?mt=8

Ah, no worries, just now I searched for it again and this time the App store presented me your app … purchased it (but will postpone a review until I have more time to check it out). I just tried playing with it a little bit … crashed once (can't remember what I did, sorry) … but looks really nice, looking forward to your further development.

:tmbup:

_________________
“The only difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad.” — Salvador Dali ★ Play a slooooow correspondence game with me on OGS? :)

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #58 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:00 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
Bonobo san,

Thank you for purchasing my app!
And I am sorry that the app was crashed.
If you are using version 1.1.0, it has an apparent pattern for crash and the bug was fixed in 1.1.1.
But as I wrote the previous post, I introduced a new bug by mistake.
The verion 1.1.1 is not fully functional.
Please wait for 1.1.2 for a while.

The other crash pattern is the case that the available memory was not enough.
The app keeps 1/3 of memory aat first and consumes more gradually.
If OS and other apps are also consuming much memory, the app will be crashed suddenly.

Thank you for your cheers!


This post by y_ich was liked by: Bonobo
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #59 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:27 pm 
Dies in gote

Posts: 35
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 15
Rank: Tygem 7d
Hi.

The version 1.1.2 has been released!

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/%E5%9B% ... 35374?mt=8

Two bugs were fixed.
- You could not take back a move in both play and study modes.
- You could not see variations in study mode.

I was sorry for inconvenience by my careless mistake.
Enjoy!


This post by y_ich was liked by 2 people: Bonobo, fireproof
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: A Go AI app for iOS with that strong neural network
Post #60 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:27 pm 
Tengen

Posts: 4200
Location: North Carolina
Liked others: 432
Was liked: 685
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 3k
I don't know what I was thinking saying "background". I'm happy to leave the app running.

What I meant is that I'd like to plug it in and leave it to analyze while I do something else other than look at the phone, and have it return with an analysis of the entire game, if I give it enough time.

_________________
Occupy Babel!

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 63 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group