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Post #21 Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:28 am 
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SAI #107 6542a4fd (-v 1600, cpu version) http://sai.unich.it/networks/6542a4fd58 ... 9fd5a11.gz
against ZEN 7 8 dan (gtp4zen -t4 -r20 -s4000 -n3 -o1.4 -p0.7) - 1:19
zen surrendered in one game:

TIME_B: 1248.9, TIME_W: 1074


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Post #22 Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:57 am 
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SAI #109 ddcec541 (-v 1600, cpu version) http://sai.unich.it/networks/ddcec541a9 ... 0277f2b.gz
against ZEN 7 9 dan (gtp4zen -t4 -r20 -s6000 -n3 -o1.0 -p0.75) in the first game ZEN surrendered:

TIME_B: 1997.4, TIME_W: 1483.1


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Post #23 Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 am 
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SAI #109 ddcec541 (-v 1600) http://sai.unich.it/networks/ddcec541a9 ... 0277f2b.gz
against KataGo (6x96) 2:48 (5 sec/move, gt 610)

TIME_B: 621.4 TIME_W: 644.8


TIME_B: 659 TIME_W: 643.4


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Post #24 Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:14 am 
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perhaps the next after 6x128 will be the network 9x192. in test matches these networks appeared, for example a48ceb19 http://sai.unich.it/networks/a48ceb1926 ... 7a34235.gz

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Post #25 Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:07 pm 
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11 hours ago:
"We plan to wait
until we have a 9x192 network trained on the most recent data before switching.
It should happen in about 10 hours." https://github.com/sai-dev/sai/issues/3 ... -561051187
very interesting...

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Post #26 Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:34 am 
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# 139 84910f22 - 9x192! http://sai.unich.it/networks/84910f22d5 ... b03523b.gz


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Post #27 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:21 am 
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OK I'm stupid. How can I play it 9x9 with Sabaki, what's the command line? Thx.

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Post #28 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:19 am 
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download: https://github.com/sai-dev/sai/releases/

in Sabaki launch like Leela Zero:
path d:\sai\sai9x9.exe
--gtp --noponder -w 94619dea457de054503cec030269ce842c47055ba51e96db8fee841dfbaf05f9.gz
additionally: time_settings 0 5 1


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Post #29 Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:00 am 
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SAI for android https://github.com/Grant-Tao/compiled-l ... oid-phones

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Post #30 Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:47 am 
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100 games 9x9, KataGo 10x128-s1108 - SAI (gt 610, 5 sec/move) 30:70 (KataGo b 9:41 and KataGo w 21:29)
100 games 9x9, KataGo 10x128-s4588 - SAI (gt 610, 5 sec/move) 65:35 (KataGo b 23:27 and KataGo w 42:8)
in this game SAI gave up on move 30:


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Post #31 Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:11 am 
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200 more games 9x9, sai with additional parameters:
100 games KataGo 10x128-s4588 - SAI (--lambda 0 --mu 0 --nrsymm), (gt 610, 5 sec/move) 55:45 (KataGo b 17:33 and KataGo w 38:12)
100 games KataGo 10x128-s4588 - SAI (--lambda 0 --mu 0 --nrsymm --puct 0), (gt 610, 5 sec/move) 84:16 (KataGo b 39:11 and KataGo w 45:5)
with these parameters SAI (--lambda 0 --mu 0 --nrsymm --puct 0) some games end very quickly:


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Post #32 Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:39 pm 
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new release SAI 0.17.5 https://github.com/sai-dev/sai/releases

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Post #33 Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:09 am 
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SAI 0.17.5
100 games KataGo 10x128-s4588 - SAI (--lambda 0 --mu 0 --nrsymm), (gt 610, 5 sec/move) 48:52 (KataGo b 10:40 and KataGo w 38:12)

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Post #34 Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:52 am 
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Twenty 9x9 games
SAI 0.17.5 v. katago1.2
both : gogui-twogtp 1.5.1 , --noponder, komi 7.5, 7 sec/move (GTX 1080)
no duplicate game, no error, both program always agree on the score.

Katago wins 12-8 (60%)

networks :
SAI : 94619dea457de054503cec030269ce842c47055ba51e96db8fee841dfbaf05f9
katago : g104-b20c256-s447913472-d241840887
I'm not sure if these are the best weights available...


The first game, won by SAI (Black) :

The stats : (B+... always means SAI wins, even if SAi is W, because of the command -alternate)
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Post #35 Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:53 am 
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Vargo could you make some more games on your powerful graphics card, but SAI with parameters (--lambda 0 --mu 0 --nrsymm)?

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Post #36 Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:26 am 
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100 games 10 sec/move:
KataGo 10x128-s4588 - SAI (--lambda 0 --mu 0 --nrsymm), (gt 610) 51:49 (KataGo b 11:39 and KataGo w 40:10)
one of the games:


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Post #37 Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:50 am 
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Second 20-game test (same parameters and hardware) :
SAI 0.17.5 v. katago1.2
Katago wins 13-7 (65%)

SAI : ... --lambda 0.5 -r 5 -t 6 --batchsize 6 --nrsymm , but not --mu 0, I'll add it next time.

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Post #38 Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:05 am 
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SAI #218 66e662fe (--lambda 0 --mu 0 --nrsymm) http://sai.unich.it/networks/66e662fe4f ... 297ee7c.gz
against KataGo (10x128 s1108) 2:48 (5 sec/move, gt 610)




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Post #39 Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:36 pm 
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SAI gives the only right answer to this



ALL zeros and its successor(leelaz\elfOpengo\minigo\ox\ on nextEngine;ttlEngine;alreadydoneEngine;komiEngine) cant give the right answer!!


Recently SAI weights strength goes beyond LZ092.
Yes, SAI really knows something now. Amazing!
You want to know the answer? Take SAI for a try!

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Post #40 Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:58 pm 
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georgenan wrote:
SAI gives the only right answer to this

why is the only right answer? White can make any move and still win (maybe almost any :) )

here https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?p=244851#p244851 really the only right answer

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